....com> writes Are the 'Tired' was that not a Russian truck in the 60's? No idea, but I well remember their Moskovich cars from about that period. They got banned from the roads here after some government department did tests on them and found that they all had a braking defect which caused them all to veer away from a straight line under braking. And on full lock the tyres rubbed the brake pipes. -- Tony the Dragon

...LZmdnTC6uvG43EzVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>, Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> writes Are the 'Tired' was that not a Russian truck in the 60's? No idea, but I well remember their Moskovich cars from about that period. They got banned from the roads here after some government department did tests on them and found that they all had a braking defect which caused them all to veer away from a straight line under braking. -- Clive

... a steering link failure. I was following a Transit van on the M4 a few years ago when it suddenly veered hard left across one lane (fortunately without hitting anything) and acros the hard shoulder where it bounced onto its two nearside wheels as it hit the bank. Then it veered hard right across all three lanes until it bounced off the crash barrier. But then it carried on as if nothing had...

... chain of events, and I also expect that the actual cause will be nothing that's been mentioned by the media so far. Temperature probe - yeah - right. Very unusual in my recollection for a (young!) a/c to veer away catastrophically from a dead engine in good conditions on t/o. Implies something very bad happened, and of course you're right - it would be a chain of events. Reminds me of the Concorde. Hmph - come to that, it ...

...by Steve Firth who posted links to back up what he said. Can you provide links to prove what you've now claimed several times without proof? Fod To quote Brimstone from a few months back. "A squadron of pigs in tight "diamond nine" formation fly across the City of London, up The Mall and over Buckingham Palace veering off to land in Hyde Park where they await their next mission over Catford." -- Tony the Dragon

... and killed six people on board, an inquest has heard. Air traffic controller Kevin Carey today gave evidence he received two alarms indicating the Piper Cheyenne aircraft on route from Bankstown Airport in Sydney had veered 7.5 miles off its path before crashing into a ridge northeast of Melbourne on July 28, 2004. Mr Carey said it appeared the aircraft was making a safe approach to Benalla Airport so he ...

... crashed and killed six people on board, an inquest has heard. Air traffic controller Kevin Carey today gave evidence he received two alarms indicating the Piper Cheyenne aircraft on route from Bankstown Airport in Sydney had veered 7.5 miles off its path before crashing into a ridge northeast of Melbourne on July 28, 2004. Mr Carey said it appeared the aircraft was making a safe approach to Benalla Airport so he ...

... plane crashed and killed six people on board, an inquest has heard. Air traffic controller Kevin Carey today gave evidence he received two alarms indicating the Piper Cheyenne aircraft on route from Bankstown Airport in Sydney had veered 7.5 miles off its path before crashing into a ridge northeast of Melbourne on July 28, 2004. Mr Carey said it appeared the aircraft was making a safe approach to Benalla Airport so he cancelled ...

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... Shahaadah -- which is your proclamation of faith -- and you have to pray five times a day. Anything about good and evil in there? Anything about sin? Right or wrong?" The most entertaining moments, and veering perhaps the most off message, came in the Middle East briefing. It was basically an ass-smoke-blowing-circle between Brog, Bill Kristol (the editor of the neoconservative Weekly Standard), religious right leader Gary Bauer,...