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Leaked papers show Britain trying to weaken plan for EU carbon cuts.
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The dangers of cold war mentality and counter-culture mentality.
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Scarcity - and how capitalism solves it
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Sex-rites and male-submission
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Why We Don't Celebrate A "Capital Day"
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Two Errors in Thinking That We Must Avoid: The Naturalistic Fallacy & The Moralistic Fallacy.
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Our Enemy the State
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Re: Leaked papers show Britain trying to weaken plan for EU carbon cuts.
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Author: Adrian
Date: Sep 17, 2008 23:50
...-acting CO2, making a much bigger improvement - at a lower cost. Everybody's a winner. Oh, wait. Except the luddites who are trying to use this as a stick to move everybody back to what they think is some utopian pre-industrial revolution state - ignoring the fact that, back then, they'd have just been uneducated peasants. <thinks> No real difference, then. Other than the fact they'd have had to have worked their arses off to survive....
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The dangers of cold war mentality and counter-culture mentality.
Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile · Search for utopian in alt.philosophy
Author: The Great Gordo
Date: Sep 15, 2008 18:38
...contrast, the conservative cold war mentality has roots in tribal paganism but is cloaked in Judeo-Christianism. Notice that liberals tend be secular and irreligious but call for a truer implementation of Christian utopianism; liberals want to blur national and racial lines and promote egalitarianism. In contrast, notice that conservatives tend to be religious and moralistic in their professed values but their core passions revolve around ...
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Re: Scarcity - and how capitalism solves it
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Author: Immortalist
Date: Sep 9, 2008 18:59
...> On the subject of scarcity, I was addressing how *business* addresses - and solves - the problem. The communists notoriously not only didn't solve the problem - though that was supposed to have been their utopian mission - they caused it on a massive scale, including outright famines, e.g. Stalin and Mao. Well the capitalist have not yet notoriously solved the problem of scarcity either. I think that if ...
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Re: Scarcity - and how capitalism solves it
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Author: Fred Weiss
Date: Sep 9, 2008 06:44
...> On the subject of scarcity, I was addressing how *business* addresses - and solves - the problem. The communists notoriously not only didn't solve the problem - though that was supposed to have been their utopian mission - they caused it on a massive scale, including outright famines, e.g. Stalin and Mao. Well the capitalist have not yet notoriously solved the problem of scarcity either. I think that if there is a...
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Re: Scarcity - and how capitalism solves it
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Author: Immortalist
Date: Sep 8, 2008 22:13
...money. On the subject of scarcity, I was addressing how *business* addresses - and solves - the problem. The communists notoriously not only didn't solve the problem - though that was supposed to have been their utopian mission - they caused it on a massive scale, including outright famines, e.g. Stalin and Mao. Well the capitalist have not yet notoriously solved the problem of scarcity either. I think that if there is a ...
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Re: Scarcity - and how capitalism solves it
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Author: Fred Weiss
Date: Sep 7, 2008 00:43
... might have, the financial ones have to be front and center and primary otherwise you won't stay in business for long. On the subject of scarcity, I was addressing how *business* addresses - and solves - the problem. The communists notoriously not only didn't solve the problem - though that was supposed to have been their utopian mission - they caused it on a massive scale, including outright famines, e.g. Stalin and Mao. Fred Weiss
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Sex-rites and male-submission
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Author: Janine Starscream
Date: Sep 4, 2008 19:47
... avoid reproducing the problems and oppression of the past in our attempts to shape the future. moral condemnation and an institution of guilt and redress are manipulation schemes that serve the dominant interests of an elite. given the over- arching egalitarian and utopian nature of tantra as I would see its culture develop, it would seem to be served by holistic, just ideals that empower and enhance our lives. god i love being me...
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Michelle Obama Speaks of Barack; Fiction vs Fact...
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Author: FalconsLair
Date: Sep 4, 2008 11:45
...better his community and our world. She explains that they have similar values and experiences and assures the American people that when he becomes president they will change this country for the better, to reflect their utopian vision for our society. There’s just one sticky point. Anyone with more than a superficial understanding of what they represent understands that Barack’s Mother and father, and Michelle’s bitter feelings about the...
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Re: Why We Don't Celebrate A "Capital Day"
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Author: Shrikeback
Date: Sep 4, 2008 08:58
... as the goal of economics (i.e. economic justice). Actually, if economics were in any way scientific, its goal would be to describe, not to advocate religious concepts such as "justice." Justice is generally a utopian concept anyway. There is no justice in the real world. "Suffering is universal" is the First Fundamental Truth of Buddhism, and that one is merely an empirical observation. Marx, of course, got the politics quite ...
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Re: Two Errors in Thinking That We Must Avoid: The Naturalistic Fallacy & The Moralistic Fallacy.
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Author: tooly
Date: Sep 1, 2008 03:23
... way things should be is the way they are. This is the tendency to believe that what is good is natural; that what ought to be, is. This seems contradictory to me, as stated, so I won't comment. Utopianism seems moralistic to me, but would argue that what ought to be, is NOT [yet]. The original marxists argued that free market capitalism [a free design left to nature, ie laize faire]...led to oppression (especially sexual) and ...
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