... there can possibly be a stock shortage. If there's enough stock to run the normal Euston-Watford and NLL services, then there's enough to run Euston-Watford as normal and Stratford to Willesden Jn going via Primrose Hill instead of West Hampstead.) The reason why the trains switch to AC is because trains using the DC stretch along there would have to go at half power. Isn't that just a general feature of ...

... to AC, but presumably DC can still be used.) (Not that there can possibly be a stock shortage. If there's enough stock to run the normal Euston-Watford and NLL services, then there's enough to run Euston-Watford as normal and Stratford to Willesden Jn going via Primrose Hill instead of West Hampstead.) The reason why the trains switch to AC is because trains using the DC stretch along there would have to go at half power.

... problem meaning that the service had to use either the northern pair of tracks or Stratford high level. Of course, the 508s might not have the correct paperwork anyway. (Not that there can possibly be a stock shortage. If there's enough stock to run the normal Euston-Watford and NLL services, then there's enough to run Euston-Watford as normal and Stratford to Willesden Jn going via Primrose Hill instead of West Hampstead.)

... the 313s normally switch to AC, but presumably DC can still be used.) (Not that there can possibly be a stock shortage. If there's enough stock to run the normal Euston-Watford and NLL services, then there's enough to run Euston-Watford as normal and Stratford to Willesden Jn going via Primrose Hill instead of West Hampstead.) I think you could get to Stratford Low Level on third rail, but is that what they are using now?

.... Can't Watford Junction to Stratford be done entirely on DC? (There's a dual-electrified stretch where the 313s normally switch to AC, but presumably DC can still be used.) (Not that there can possibly be a stock shortage. If there's enough stock to run the normal Euston-Watford and NLL services, then there's enough to run Euston-Watford as normal and Stratford to Willesden Jn going via Primrose Hill instead of West Hampstead.)

... track anyway (2 via Gospel Oak and 2 via Primrose Hill). With it also effectively going to be 4 ... would have enabled any remaining NLL freight to access Primrose Hill as required. Said freight wouldn't have dedicated ... from the CTRL/HS1 along the NLL then via Primrose Hill and up the WCML), which would require minimal ... also the freight crossing at the junction onto the Primrose Hill route. Arguably the problem here is the freight ...

... get west of Camden Rd they are effectively on four track anyway (2 via Gospel Oak and 2 via Primrose Hill). With it also effectively going to be 4 tracks east of Dalston (2 to New Cross and 2...widening the viaduct for 10-odd metres or so, and a crossover would have enabled any remaining NLL freight to access Primrose Hill as required. Said freight wouldn't have dedicated refuge loops, but then most of it'd probably be running via...

somersetchris wrote: Not quadrupling through Camden Rd will create a very nasty pinch point. As soon as trains get west of Camden Rd they are effectively on four track anyway (2 via Gospel Oak and 2 via Primrose Hill). With it also effectively going to be 4 tracks east of Dalston (2 to New Cross and 2 to Stratford) what is needed is 4 tracks between Dalston and Camden Rd. This is going to remove a lot of pathways for freight and...

...-17b43619cf9a@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... Not quadrupling through Camden Rd will create a very nasty pinch point. As soon as trains get west of Camden Rd they are effectively on four track anyway (2 via Gospel Oak and 2 via Primrose Hill). With it also effectively going to be 4 tracks east of Dalston (2 to New Cross and 2 to Stratford) what is needed is 4 tracks between Dalston and Camden Rd. This is going to remove a lot of ...

Not quadrupling through Camden Rd will create a very nasty pinch point. As soon as trains get west of Camden Rd they are effectively on four track anyway (2 via Gospel Oak and 2 via Primrose Hill). With it also effectively going to be 4 tracks east of Dalston (2 to New Cross and 2 to Stratford) what is needed is 4 tracks between Dalston and Camden Rd. This is going to remove a lot of pathways for freight and non LOROL trains from the NLL....