.... Any driver vaguely competent and alert would have either slowed down or moved out to avoid the puddle. Totally. Doug also fails to realize that drivers will also avoid puddles where possible to avoid the risk of engine flooding or hitting a pothole that's hidden by the puddle. In a Land-Rover one can go though deeper puddles faster than in the average car hence Doug thinks all cars drivers are the same as him.

...> wrote: Doug <jag...@riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were Yeah sure! I can see loads of motorists bothering to do that. Any driver vaguely competent and alert would have either slowed down or moved out to avoid the puddle. Totally. Doug also fails to realize that drivers will also avoid puddles where possible to avoid the risk of engine flooding or hitting a pothole that's hidden by the puddle. Fod

...Fred might say the situation is absurd. The situation geography is changed by the discovery of electronic media. Everything is mainstreamed in a way that everybody in the family can view it safely. What is the deal with the potholes? Seems more like you watch tv and reflect what it does to people. Try not watching anything for a month, will you go insane? No Sense of Place: The Impact of Electronic Media on Social Behavior by Joshua ...

Colin Nelson wrote: Cyclists often ride at some distance from the kerb to avoid drains and potholes and to discourage motorists from squeezing them on narrow roads. It is not in their interest to delay motorists deliberately. Someone should tell Critical Mass!

... by you and by other motorists. Cyclists often ride at some distance from the kerb to avoid drains and potholes and to discourage motorists from squeezing them on narrow roads. It is not in their interest to delay motorists ... riders even more space than older ones; both old and young riders may swerve suddenly to avoid debris or potholes, but young people are more prone to forget your presence when they do. Remember to use all your mirrors ...

... in becoming involved with it. They are busy creating the innovations, technologies, and arts that actually contribute something to quality of life. But I do "believe in" government. It has a role to play, e.g, keeping the streets free of potholes and muggers, and keeping the Red Army off them. But it has no useful role to play in the economy, and any intrusion it makes is likely to be counterproductive, if not destructive.

... care? If you work you don't get shit Transportation? Gridlock in major cities. An airline system on the verge of collapse. A rail system 20 years behind Europe. Falling in bridges. Roads full of potholes. Plus the Gas tax should pay for any road stuff Social framework making business possible. You got to explain that one I am in business and the Government does NOTHING not SHIT for me. If you mean ...

... care? If you work you don't get shit Transportation? Gridlock in major cities. An airline system on the verge of collapse. A rail system 20 years behind Europe. Falling in bridges. Roads full of potholes. Plus the Gas tax should pay for any road stuff Social framework making business possible. You got to explain that one I am in business and the Government does NOTHING not SHIT for me. If you mean ...

... care? If you work you don't get shit Transportation? Gridlock in major cities. An airline system on the verge of collapse. A rail system 20 years behind Europe. Falling in bridges. Roads full of potholes. Plus the Gas tax should pay for any road stuff Social framework making business possible. You got to explain that one I am in business and the Government does NOTHING not SHIT for me. If you mean tax ...

... medical care? If you work you don't get shit Transportation? Gridlock in major cities. An airline system on the verge of collapse. A rail system 20 years behind Europe. Falling in bridges. Roads full of potholes. Plus the Gas tax should pay for any road stuff Social framework making business possible. You got to explain that one I am in business and the Government does NOTHING not SHIT for me. If you mean tax breaks...