On Sep 5, 6:45 am, ZerkonX <Z...@X.net> wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:30:01 -0700, turtoni wrote: I'm interested in the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a true money maker I was thinking more along the lines that it's a matter of survival to be "interested" in such things.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:30:01 -0700, turtoni wrote: I'm interested in the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a true money maker

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