...cases of suicide in this industry, and if you or your most dearly loved are at threat of extinction, under threat of violence from contacts, a vehicle, or via voice internet connection or a superior 'slave' network...it isnt only martyrdom its becoming big business someplace I dispute this sentence. Its truth, if it is even true at all, depends on the meaning of "taking another's pain upon oneself." If I seek to relieve another'...

... saw himself in these terms. He was out of the Inquisition's power, and chose, voluntarily to return to Italy. He was imprisoned for seven years during which he refused to renounce his views. He knew that martyrdom would attract attention to his ideas. Galileo, I believe, simply underestimated the Pope. He thought his opponents were fools, and they weren't. No, he misunderstood his foes. He thought that they ...

... saw himself in these terms. He was out of the Inquisition's power, and chose, voluntarily to return to Italy. He was imprisoned for seven years during which he refused to renounce his views. He knew that martyrdom would attract attention to his ideas. Galileo, I believe, simply underestimated the Pope. He thought his opponents were fools, and they weren't. No, he misunderstood his foes. He thought that they were ...

...saw himself in these terms.  He was out of the Inquisition's power, and chose, voluntarily to return to Italy.  He was imprisoned for seven years during which he refused to renounce his views.  He knew that martyrdom would attract attention to his ideas. Now, that is truely ridiculous. Galileo, I believe, simply underestimated the Pope.  He thought his opponents were fools, and they weren't. And this too, of course. This...

... saw himself in these terms.  He was out of the Inquisition's power, and chose, voluntarily to return to Italy.  He was imprisoned for seven years during which he refused to renounce his views.  He knew that martyrdom would attract attention to his ideas. Galileo, I believe, simply underestimated the Pope.  He thought his opponents were fools, and they weren't. No, he misunderstood his foes. He thought that they ...

... christ-like saviour who sacrifices himself for the good of humanity. Bruno saw himself in these terms. He was out of the Inquisition's power, and chose, voluntarily to return to Italy. He was imprisoned for seven years during which he refused to renounce his views. He knew that martyrdom would attract attention to his ideas. Galileo, I believe, simply underestimated the Pope. He thought his opponents were fools, and they weren't.

...aol.com> wrote: Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in evildoers? Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from happening and could care less what's in a person's heart....

...com> wrote: Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in evildoers? �Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from happening and could care less what's in a person's heart. � ...

...53 am, C3 <C35...@aol.com> wrote: Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in evildoers?  Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from happening and could care less what's in a person's heart.   Which...

Would you rather prevent evil or pray for a change of heart in evildoers? Some Christians, especially Roman Catholics, are willing to suffer quite a bit (even to the point of martyrdom) to show intent in evildoers or to pray for a change of heart in such people. Other people, often secularists, simply want to stop bad things from happening and could care less what's in a person's heart. Which is important to you and why? One problem ...