On Sep 19, 3:06 pm, "Carl Sagan's billions" <mm2te...@yahoo.com> wrote: When I was younger I struggled very hard and for several years trying to understand Christianity, God, Jesus, Satan, Genesis, etc. Waking up should be a struggle.:-) Spiritual evolution is at our core.Just make certain that spirituality is NEVRER confused with religiosity. Don't underestimate the power of self dialogue. You have been able to eliminate most of ...

"Leo Sgouros" <hanaram857@archangels.mil> wrote in message news:gavfm2$sk$1@registered.motzarella.org... "Sean" <here@now.com.au> wrote in message news:48d33fa7$0$28216$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... "Leo Sgouros" <hanaram857@archangels.mil> wrote in message news:gaveqe$s4r$1@registered.motzarella.org... "Sean" <here@now.com.au> wrote in message news:48d337f1$0$4454$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... ...

"Sean" <here@now.com.au> wrote in message news:48d33fa7$0$28216$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... "Leo Sgouros" <hanaram857@archangels.mil> wrote in message news:gaveqe$s4r$1@registered.motzarella.org... "Sean" <here@now.com.au> wrote in message news:48d337f1$0$4454$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... "Carl Sagan's billions" <mm2terra@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:186e4a7a-253f-4aca-bcd7-1baf248774a8@...

"Sean" <here@now.com.au> wrote in message news:48d337f1$0$4454$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... "Carl Sagan's billions" <mm2terra@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:186e4a7a-253f-4aca-bcd7-1baf248774a8@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... When I was younger I struggled very hard and for several years trying to understand Christianity, Well, that was your first mistake. :) From that, everything else below follows. ...

"Carl Sagan's billions" <mm2terra@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:186e4a7a-253f-4aca-bcd7-1baf248774a8@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... When I was younger I struggled very hard and for several years trying to understand Christianity, Well, that was your first mistake. :) From that, everything else below follows.

... more than matter and that that extra is basically immaterial and will go on forever. We also fear death...God', there is no reason to assume that an 'immaterial' God like the Christian or Islamic or Jewish God...there is only one conclusion left: There is no immaterial God applying material forces on or into our physical...) without having to introduce/assume a supernatural and 'immaterial' being capable of and actively acting on matter. ...

...way at all, and you are an extremely sad specimin to try to make it so. How do you imagine that meat is transported and what about the vehicles involved in rearing meat? The commodity is immaterial, the same amount of goods will need to be transported. In fact, given that veg provides less than meat a higher volume of vehicle movements would be need to provide a veggie diet for the whole ...

... any way at all, and you are an extremely sad specimin to try to make it so. How do you imagine that meat is transported and what about the vehicles involved in rearing meat? The commodity is immaterial, the same amount of goods will need to be transported. In fact, given that veg provides less than meat a higher volume of vehicle movements would be need to provide a veggie diet for the whole country....

...related in any way at all, and you are an extremely sad specimin to try to make it so. How do you imagine that meat is transported and what about the vehicles involved in rearing meat? The commodity is immaterial, the same amount of goods will need to be transported. In fact, given that veg provides less than meat a higher volume of vehicle movements would be need to provide a veggie diet for the whole country. ...

...any way at all, and you are an extremely sad specimin to try to make it so. How do you imagine that meat is transported and what about the vehicles involved in rearing meat? The commodity is immaterial, the same amount of goods will need to be transported. In fact, given that veg provides less than meat a higher volume of vehicle movements would be need to provide a veggie diet for the whole country. But you ...