... (worthy goals based on fairness concerns), then these goals might be better served by encouraging assimilation and a sense of shared identity. The purity/sanctity foundation is used heavily by the Christian right to condemn hedonism and sexual "deviance," but it can also be harnessed for progressive causes. Sanctity does not have to come from God; the psychology of this system is about overcoming our lower, grasping, carnal selves in ...

... the time he or she is born. We educate our kids to be consumers than citizens. This is both the fault of liberals and conservative-- especially libertarians. Liberals flood our culture with nothing but hedonism and crassness. And, libertarians argue that free markets can solve ALL problems, as though we are nothing more than economic units. Free market dynamics see people as billiard balls reacting simply to economic forces ...

... from the time he or she is born. We educate our kids to be consumers than citizens. This is both the fault of liberals and conservative-- especially libertarians. Liberals flood our culture with nothing but hedonism and crassness. And, libertarians argue that free markets can solve ALL problems, as though we are nothing more than economic units. Free market dynamics see people as billiard balls reacting simply to economic forces zinging ...

>> hedonism within a (cultural) jungle.. But where do these pleasures come from? You think Earth just appeared one day? That matter came into existence all by itself and formed itself into trees and plants and clouds? You think such a large quantity of matter could appear all by itself from nothing? Do you not think it more likely that there is a better explanation? THE BORG The idea that "it more likely that ...

... inject into it), existential nihilists will deny that this meaning is anything but self-deception. Existential nihilists could thus seem to be more pessimistic than the other existentialists, but even here, conclusions vary: Some will claim that the best thing to do is to commit suicide while others will claim that the lack of objective meaning to life means you should just do as you wish - a hedonism of sorts." - wiki

...: On Jul 5, 10:36 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@here.com> wrote: "turtoni" <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote in message news:b38f02d6-7ebf-4e5a-84af-ec270669c5e5@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... hedonism within a jungle.. But where do these pleasures come from? You think Earth just appeared one day? That matter came into existence all by itself and formed itself into trees and plants and clouds? ...

On Jul 5, 10:36 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@here.com> wrote: "turtoni" <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote in message news:b38f02d6-7ebf-4e5a-84af-ec270669c5e5@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... hedonism within a jungle.. But where do these pleasures come from? You think Earth just appeared one day? That matter came into existence all by itself and formed itself into trees and plants and clouds? You think such a large ...

"turtoni" <turtoni@fastmail.net> wrote in message news:b38f02d6-7ebf-4e5a-84af-ec270669c5e5@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... hedonism within a jungle.. But where do these pleasures come from? You think Earth just appeared one day? That matter came into existence all by itself and formed itself into trees and plants and clouds? You think such a large quantity of matter could appear all by itself from nothing? Do you not think it...

...to commit suicide while others will claim that the lack of objective meaning to life means you should just do as you wish - a hedonism of sorts." - wiki But you say your personal reason and meaning is art - music in particular. This is as good a reason as ... art themselves are proof of the desire to find and locate the truth.  Some beauty or meaning that DRIVES people to do this. THE BORG hedonism within a jungle..

...other existentialists, but even here, conclusions vary: Some will claim that the best thing to do is to commit suicide while others will claim that the lack of objective meaning to life means you should just do as you wish - a hedonism of sorts." - wiki But you say your personal reason and meaning is art - music in particular. This is as good a reason as any to believe in SOMETHING. That when you do "know" of the feelings that "cause"...