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...-the-scenes model of computation. Namely, lisp the language deals with the concept of “lisp objects”, and there's a “print...which ultimately involves good understanding of lisp's symbols, macros, forms, and evaluation...is no such intermediate concept of objects. Everything in Mathematica is just a...xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/notations.html ★ Lisp's List Problem http://xahlee.org...

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