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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: Dubh Ghall
Date: May 19, 2007 07:01

...@emailaccount.com> wrote: One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? Of course. John Major comes to mind immediately. You have got a higher opinion of that idiot, than I have ...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: Dubh Ghall
Date: May 19, 2007 05:47

... <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote: One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? Of course. John Major comes to mind immediately. You have got a higher opinion of that idiot, than I have ...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: Dubh Ghall
Date: May 18, 2007 10:53

... -0700, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote: One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? Of course. John Major comes to mind immediately. You have got a higher opinion of that idiot, than I have I have a higher...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: Dubh Ghall
Date: May 18, 2007 10:42

... Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote: One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? Of course. John Major comes to mind immediately. You have got a higher opinion of that idiot, than I have he enjoyed his ...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: Hatter
Date: May 18, 2007 09:55

...> Hasty generalization Cum hoc ergo propter hoc Affirmation of the consequent Yeah, strong argument you got there, Godboy. Why worry about all those attributes (Kind, Honest, Sober And A Stable Family Life) if he/she is a good leader?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The old Winston Churchill versus Hitler comparison is apropriate here. Churchhill: ...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: mikegordge
Date: May 17, 2007 23:43

... Is Not Great: How The Lack of Religion Poisons Everything One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? NONE of these are political leaders fool! Not Karl Marx - he preached revolution and was an anti-Semite. Not Friedrich Nietzsche - ...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: chazwin
Date: May 17, 2007 23:30

... Is Not Great: How The Lack of Religion Poisons Everything One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? NONE of these are political leaders fool! Not Karl Marx - he preached revolution and was an anti-Semite. Not Friedrich Nietzsche - he never married ...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: raven1
Date: May 17, 2007 21:29

...00 -0700, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrumpet@emailaccount.com> wrote: One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? Of course. John Major comes to mind immediately. You have got a higher opinion of that idiot, than I have I have a higher opinion ...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: Richo
Date: May 17, 2007 18:01

...> Godlessness Is Not Great: How The Lack of Religion Poisons Everything One thing which occurred to me lately: Can anyone find an example of a single prominent atheistic leader who was kind, honest, and sober and had a stable family life? <snip> Not Stalin or Mao - the most ruthless killers who ever lived. IIRC, what I was taught as a child, The Man of Steel, was a...
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Re: Was There Ever Any Atheist Leader Who Was Kind, Honest, Sober And Had A Stable Family Life?     

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Author: Dubh Ghall
Date: May 17, 2007 17:29

...>> Argumentum ad nauseam Hasty generalization Cum hoc ergo propter hoc Affirmation of the consequent Yeah, strong argument you got there, Godboy. Why worry about all those attributes (Kind, Honest, Sober And A Stable Family Life) if he/she is a good leader? Well he doesn't, if they are republicans; Does he? In fact, they don't even have to be good leaders. --...
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