... this youtube clip illustrates just how far you can go with the general public at large if you are holding the right frame: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GclCE0cLA-o (and in general these kind of tv shows illustrate exactly how crazy you can! Just do it... lol) dman, of The Auckland Lair www.aucklandlair.com

On Jan 16, 4:10 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote: According to many in this group, citing fiction is not favored. all I'm saying is "hey, this looks like fun. look and see what they can do (expand your minds), so I am going to give this shit a go to"

"Gordon Roy Parker, creator of \"nothing\"" writes... According to many in this group, citing fiction is not favored. Then why do you do it so much? -- ~ The Evil Tessmacher Coming Soon to a Kiosk near you!

On Jan 15, 10:10 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <r...@cybersheet.com> wrote: According to many in this group, citing fiction is not favored. Drawing a real-world conclusion from fictional evidence is stupid. Who do we know who does that repeatedly? Oh, yeah... YOU! Take your meds, fr00t l00p.

According to many in this group, citing fiction is not favored. -- Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy Ray's new "Project 5000" is here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000 Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which no longer work. Thinking of ...