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Author: chazwin
Date: Jan 25, 2007 12:14

...know is somehow based on absolute objective facts beyond challenge or reproach. ...it would mean to assume that objective truth is completely unknowable. Thus that which we call "objective knowledge" is actually collective subjectivity: a viewpoint that...the aquisition of knowledge than these objectives (erggh). Reliance on reason based ...
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Author: George Dance
Date: Jan 25, 2007 07:07

...with a statement, does not make it objectively (mind-independently) true. For example, my ...what it would mean to assume that objective truth is completely unknowable. Thus that which we call "objective knowledge" is actually collective subjectivity: a viewpoint that ...to the aquisition of knowledge than these objectives (erggh). Reliance on reason based on ...
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Author: chazwin
Date: Jan 25, 2007 05:33

... is somehow based on absolute objective facts beyond challenge or reproach...false. That which is considered "objective" is no more than perceived...which we call "objective knowledge" is actually collective subjectivity: a viewpoint...keen to throw out their "objectively" derived "facts". The image of...aquisition of knowledge than these objectives (erggh). Reliance on reason based...
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Author: George Dance
Date: Jan 25, 2007 04:45

... know is somehow based on absolute objective facts beyond challenge or reproach. ...to stand and view the world objectively. All knowledge and perception has to... none of our beliefs are objectively true? For example, my belief ... which we call "objective knowledge" is actually collective subjectivity: a viewpoint ...in the fact that all this "objectively" aquired data can be challenged ...
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Author: George Dance
Date: Jan 25, 2007 03:55

... certainty. (e.g probability theory. Objective but uncertain). The fact is ... stand and view the world objectively. Which means there is no ...(3) 1) There is an objective world 2) There is an ... intersubjectively 3) There is an objective world we can obtain certain...criterion of truth from objectivity to collective subjectivity. (Ie, from facts...
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Author: chazwin
Date: Feb 22, 2007 02:05

... Terminator wrote:] Show me the objective reality in a hammer and I'...be that you cannot describe an objectively real hammer without offering a ... can understand the idea of objects - things-in-themselves - existing independently ... how we build up the "collectively subjective" knowledge of the hammer ... that the knowledge is somehow "objective".- Hide quoted text - a real ...
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Author: George Dance
Date: Feb 8, 2007 21:44

...so can't be purely subjective wrt me). If you get...giving them information about that objectively existing elephant. Their theories may...anyone. But, fortunately, individual and collective biases are not the standard...world. This is actually what objectivity is rather than a claim...between scientists looks not like collective subjectivity but intersubjectivity - each scientist...
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Author: George Dance
Date: Feb 7, 2007 07:34

...are confusing "a real hammer" with "objective reality of a hammer". You,... that you cannot describe an objectively real hammer without offering a ... can understand the idea of objects - things-in-themselves - existing independently ... how we build up the "collectively subjective" knowledge of the hammer... hammer. 2) People can perceive objectively existing things-in-themselves, which ...
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Author: nothungry
Date: Feb 4, 2007 08:08

... of two whose collective subjectivity somehow qualifies as objectivity, or do...we need more recruits? IMO, collective subjectivty doesn't qualify s...meant by mind- independence or objectivity. Why doesn't your conscious...I say the door exists objectively. I'm still not sure...things like "absolute truth" and "objective reality". Another approach is blowing...
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Author: George Dance
Date: Feb 4, 2007 07:13

... of two whose collective subjectivity somehow qualifies as objectivity, or do we need more recruits? IMO, collective subjectivty doesn't qualify s ...meant by mind- independence or objectivity. Why doesn't your conscious...things like "absolute truth" and "objective reality". Another approach is blowing...by my definition, are the 'subjective' facts). So they're 'something...
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