On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:50:24 -0600, Beowulf wrote: I wonder if the server/database that mugged me was MS_Winblows, or what. I would love to know. Well they seem to like IIS on Windows for web hosting which doesn't inspire confidence: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.cariboucoffee.com What kind of card is it? Magstripe, chip, or hybrid? Was the card registered? Did you