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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: James A. Donald
Date: Apr 7, 2008 01:06

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:01:59 -0500, Darrell Stec What writings do we have directly from the early church fathers that unequivocally knew the NT authors personally. You just raised the bar sufficiently high that we could not prove the historicity of Caesar. We have the letters of Ignatius. Ignatius knew Clement...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: Paul Ransom Erickson
Date: Mar 20, 2008 22:41

... no matter what one does or says.) That site would be of tremendous value and use to a lot of people who want to know what the early church believed and what books they accepted, etc. Only to support what they already believe. True scholars don't let what they want to believe get in the way ...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: Darrell Stec
Date: Mar 13, 2008 07:11

....pea...@googlemail.com wrote: So you read those early Christian writers  have you?  And they know ... Christine websites including that of the Roman Catholic Church. Also in: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/120116.... with any degree only attended Merton College) and who studied scripture and the Early Church Writers for about 15 years, and who knew about 16 languages including those...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: Darrell Stec
Date: Mar 13, 2008 04:06

...googlemail.com wrote: So you read those early Christian writers  have you?  And they know...Roger snipped this---------- So you read those early Christian writers  have you?  And they know... including that of the Roman Catholic Church. Also in: http://www.newadvent.org/...any degree only attended Merton College) and who studied scripture and the Early Church Writers for about 15 years,...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: Darrell Stec
Date: Mar 10, 2008 05:49

... to contains writings by many famous early church fathers who had more experience...do we have directly from the early church fathers that unequivocally knew the...>> Show us the evidence. What early church father, who knew any ...t have to guess. I know for a fact that no early church father knew any NT ... my question about naming any early Church father who personally knew ...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: Linda Lee
Date: Mar 10, 2008 04:18

...we are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald Even the early church fathers did not believe Peter had written II Peter. It's purpose (and the reason for its later acceptance) was to justify canonizing Paul's ...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: roger.pearse
Date: Mar 10, 2008 01:47

...to contains writings by many famous early church fathers who had more experience...do we have directly from the early church fathers that unequivocally knew the... Show us the evidence. What early church father, who knew any of the NT writers, do he ... for a fact that no early church father knew any NT ... wrote. So you read those early Christian writers have you? And ...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: Terry Cross
Date: Mar 8, 2008 18:26

...re referring to contains writings by many famous early church fathers who had more experience and training than anyone you've listed there...What writings do we have directly from the early church fathers that unequivocally knew the NT authors personally. There are not Roger and...know that. Show us the evidence. What early church father, who knew any ...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: cactus
Date: Mar 8, 2008 17:21

... to contains writings by many famous early church fathers who had more experience...Many of the disciples WERE themselves early church fathers. Those people that Michael...the fact that you defend those early Christian writers although it is a... website. So you read those early Christian writers have you? And ... body? Do you know which early father held what opinion and ...
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Re: The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?     

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Author: Darrell Stec
Date: Mar 8, 2008 16:57

...'re referring to contains writings by many famous early church fathers who had more experience and training than anyone you've listed there...What writings do we have directly from the early church fathers that unequivocally knew the NT authors personally. There are not Roger and... know that. Show us the evidence. What early church father, who knew any of the...
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