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Author: A.W.HawkinsA.W.Hawkins Date: Jan 6, 2007 16:04
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:20:50 GMT, "Dux" ilduce.com> wrote:
>Why do many Christians believe in the death penalty?
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>Isn't it against their religion and Christian values?
No, it obviously isn't against their values, but it was against
Christ's values and the values He taught.
It is like war. Christians keep clamoring for violence against Iraq,
Iran, or whoever, but that is nothing like what Christ taught.
The handful of Jewish leaders that dealt with Christ in person decided
to see if they could get Him killed. What was the reason? Jesus was
a pacifist. The leaders were trying to stir up a revolt to overthrow
the Romans and they were afraid if Jesus was allowed to keep teaching
that such a revolt would be impossible. They asked [paraphrased],
"Isn't it better that this one man should die to save an entire nation
of people?"
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Author: Planet Visitor IIPlanet Visitor II Date: Jan 6, 2007 18:58
"A.W.Hawkins" please.com> wrote in message
news:csd0q2dddjh09vked9katvamo95kno5ost@4ax.com...> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:20:50 GMT, "Dux" ilduce.com> wrote:
>>>Why do many Christians believe in the death penalty?
>>
>>Isn't it against their religion and Christian values?
>
> No, it obviously isn't against their values, but it was against
> Christ's values and the values He taught.
>
ROTFLMAO. Of course more human beings have been murdered
in the name of "Christ," than any other real or imaginary being.
Nor did Christ EVER say He opposed the use of a civil death
penalty.
Planet Visitor II
Official publisher of AADP Official dictionary
http://www.planetvisitor.name/dictionary.html
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Author: Sydney Harbour BridgeSydney Harbour Bridge Date: Jan 6, 2007 19:55
A.W.Hawkins please.com> wrote in
news:csd0q2dddjh09vked9katvamo95kno5ost@4ax.com:
> No, it obviously isn't against their values, but it
> was against Christ's values and the values He taught.
But those value were appropriate for Christ's time.
Christians must serve society, and today's society is dominated by hatred.
Hate then is what Christians practice, in order to better serve society.
--
Rev. Dr. Rowland Croucher is the self-appointed leader of all Australian
Christians and friend of Keith Exford and his lawyer Rod Dadak of London.
http://broomleigh.be/
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Author: DanoDano Date: Jan 6, 2007 20:44
> A.W.Hawkins please.com> wrote in
> news:csd0q2dddjh09vked9katvamo95kno5ost@4ax.com:
>>> No, it obviously isn't against their values, but it
>> was against Christ's values and the values He taught.
>
> But those value were appropriate for Christ's time.
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> Christians must serve society, and today's society is dominated by hatred.
> Hate then is what Christians practice, in order to better serve society.
>
> --
What a fine load of crap you're dishing there. There was no hate in
Christ's day? Was that a loving crucifix they nailed Him to?
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Author: David JohnstonDavid Johnston Date: Jan 8, 2007 10:14
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:35:58 -0500, A.W.Hawkins please.com>
wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 20:58:38 -0600, "Planet Visitor II"
> earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>"A.W.Hawkins" please.com> wrote in message
>>news:csd0q2dddjh09vked9katvamo95kno5ost@4ax.com....
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Author: Planet Visitor IIPlanet Visitor II Date: Jan 9, 2007 20:03
"A.W.Hawkins" please.com> wrote in message
news:mrh4q2tmvp50pamqsf5hs8hepsj8dilnjb@4ax.com...> On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 20:58:38 -0600, "Planet Visitor II"
> earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>"A.W.Hawkins" please.com> wrote in message
>>news:csd0q2dddjh09vked9katvamo95kno5ost@4ax.com...>>> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:20:50 GMT, "Dux" ilduce.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Why do many Christians believe in the death penalty?
>>>>
>>>>Isn't it against their religion and Christian values?
>>>
>>> No, it obviously isn't against their values, but it was against
>>> Christ's values and the values He taught.
>>>
>>ROTFLMAO. Of course more human beings have been murdered
>>in the name of "Christ," than any other real or imaginary being.
>
> What murdered people are you talking about? Please specify. Your ...
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Author: A.W.HawkinsA.W.Hawkins Date: Jan 10, 2007 14:33
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:03:57 -0600, "Planet Visitor II"
earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>Why do many Christians believe in the death penalty?
>>>>>
>>>>>Isn't it against their religion and Christian values?
>>>>
>>>> No, it obviously isn't against their values, but it was against
>>>> Christ's values and the values He taught.
>>>ROTFLMAO. Of course more human beings have been murdered
>>>in the name of "Christ," than any other real or imaginary being.
>> What murdered people are you talking about? Please specify. Your
>> comment is merely a broad generalization that many use, but I have
>> never seen backed up.
>Well.... let's see --
>Crusades one through six.
>The Iberian War
>The Lazic War
>The Saracen Wars
>The Battle of Tours
>The Christian Reconquista
>The Hundred Years' war
>The Gnostic influence of Christianity resulting in...
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Author: A.W.HawkinsA.W.Hawkins Date: Jan 13, 2007 12:54
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:42:23 -0600, "Planet Visitor II"
earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>While it is hard to attribute the Holocaust
>>>to Christianity given that was not Hitler's motivation, it
>>>is also impossible to ignore that the anti-Semitism which
>>>laid the groundwork of Hitler's scheme was largely
>>>shored up by a basic Christian hate for the Jews because
>>>of the thinking that had persisted in Christian Europe
>>>for 2,000 years.
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>> ROTFLMAO. Better reread your German history. While many know about
>> the millions of Jews that were murdered by the German's in WWII, there
>> were at least as many non-Jews murdered.
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>So your argument is that one non-Jew murdered subtracts from
>one Jew murdered in the Holocaust.
At no time did I say that. You are being disingenuous.
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Author: A.W.HawkinsA.W.Hawkins Date: Jan 13, 2007 13:07
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:42:23 -0600, "Planet Visitor II"
earthlink.net> wrote:
>Learn your history, Son.
I am definitely not your son. My name is Anna.
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Author: A.W.HawkinsA.W.Hawkins Date: Jan 14, 2007 06:08
After reading some of your posts I have some questions.
~Do you understand that there is a difference between not agreeing
with an Israeli government policy, disliking a specific Jew, and being
anti-Semantic?
~Do you also realize that saying millions more died in the Holocaust
does not in any way diminish the deaths of the millions of Jews that
died?
~How do you tell friend from foe? From appearances it would seem you
distrust or dislike everyone.
~Why do you refuse to give anyone the benefit of the doubt?
~ Why do you CHOOSE to take offense any time you can?
~For you is posting here about teaching and learning from each other
or just about you being able to let out your anger and attacking those
you ASSUME are trying to attack you?
~Your response to my stating that I was a woman, instead of a man as
you had assumed was this, "I had presumed you were a male, because you
lacked the sensitivity, thoughtfulness, philosophical reasoning and
moral instinct I generally attribute to women."
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