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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Jan 12, 2007 07:27

Conor wrote:
> In article bt.com>, Brimstone
> says...
>> jethro_uk@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> JNugent wrote:
>>>> jethro_uk@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> having an interesting debate at work about peoples s**t jouneys
>>>>> in, and we all seemed to agree that there must be some mileage
>>>>> (pun *intended*) in looking at canal-based transport to alleviate
>>>>> Britains never-ending transport woes. Here's a section of points
>>>>
>>>>> 1) Existing infrastructue. Probably need massive investment to be
>>>>> serious. But since a decent national canal system would also
>>>>> double as a water network, there's a chance of some cross
>>>>> investment.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) Low fuel cost per mile per tonne moved (I have no idea how
>>>>> much a standard narrow boat can carry, nor how much fuel it takes
>>>>> to power it. ...
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Peter
Date: Jan 13, 2007 12:15

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:33:31 -0000, "Brimstone"
hotmail.com> wrote:
>Peter Hill wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:47:46 +0100, "GeoffC" home.invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nick Finnigan genie.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> GeoffC wrote:
>>>>> Most of the boats on that site...
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Peter
Date: Jan 13, 2007 12:52

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:29:57 -0000, "Brimstone"
hotmail.com> wrote:
>Peter wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:33:31 -0000, "Brimstone"
>> hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Why can't the canals be improved?
>>
>> Duhg will not permit them to be improved
>
>But canals are organic and are not conducive to the frantic hypermobility
>that Doug says he dislikes so much. How could he not approve?
>
Because when canals are brought into servise "frantic" hypermobility
will matter for nothing.

"Slow & liesurely" hypermobility will then become the antichrist.

However, we may all be saved as by then Duhg will hopefull be dead
--
Cheers
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: ian henden
Date: Jan 12, 2007 13:38

"Brimstone" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U9KdnWVPA-FcNTrYnZ2dnUVZ8qKvnZ2d@bt.com...
> Conor wrote:
>> In article bt.com>, Brimstone
>> says...
>>> jethro_uk@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> JNugent wrote:
>>>>> jethro_uk@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> having an interesting debate at work about peoples s**t jouneys
>>>>>> in, and we all seemed to agree that there must be some mileage
>>>>>> (pun *intended*) in looking at canal-based transport to alleviate
>>>>>> Britains never-ending transport woes. Here's a section of points
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Existing infrastructue. Probably need massive investment to be
>>>>>> serious. But since a decent national canal system would also
>>>>>> double as a water network, there's a chance of some cross
>>>>>> investment.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Low fuel cost per mile per tonne moved (I have no idea how ...
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Conor
Date: Jan 12, 2007 17:24

In article bt.com>, Brimstone says...
> Conor wrote:
>> In article bt.com>, Brimstone
>> says...
>>> jethro_uk@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> JNugent wrote:
>>>>> jethro_uk@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> having an interesting debate at work about peoples s**t jouneys
>>>>>> in, and we all seemed to agree that there must be some mileage
>>>>>> (pun *intended*) in looking at canal-based transport to alleviate
>>>>>> Britains never-ending transport woes. Here's a section of points
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Existing infrastructue. Probably need massive investment to be
>>>>>> serious. But since a decent national canal system would also
>>>>>> double as a water network, there's a chance of some cross
>>>>>> investment.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Low fuel cost per mile per tonne moved (I have no idea how
>>>>>> much a standard narrow boat can carry, nor how much fuel it takes ...
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Nick Finnigan
Date: Jan 13, 2007 03:35

GeoffC wrote:
> Most of the boats on that site seem to have around 1hp/ton. Most lorries
> have around 10hp/ton. Rail must be somewhere around the 3hp/ton.

Any idea if those boats can manage much more than 5.6mph on inland
waterways (to give them much lower fuel consumption than lorries)?
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Knight Of The Road
Date: Jan 13, 2007 10:12

"Brimstone" hotmail.com> wrote
> Why can't the canals be improved?

Because from the moment railways were invented and started being built,
canals were economically unviable.

--
Regards, Vince.
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Jan 13, 2007 10:31

Knight Of The Road wrote:
> "Brimstone" hotmail.com> wrote
>
>> Why can't the canals be improved?
>
>
> Because from the moment railways were invented and started being
> built, canals were economically unviable.

The continental and North American experience indicates otherwise.
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Knight Of The Road
Date: Jan 13, 2007 11:17

"Brimstone" hotmail.com> wrote>
> The continental and North American experience indicates otherwise.

And in what way is that remotely relevant to anything at all?

--
Regards, Vince.
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Re: Would canals work ?         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Jan 13, 2007 11:23

Knight Of The Road wrote:
> "Brimstone" hotmail.com> wrote>
>
>
>> The continental and North American experience indicates otherwise.
>
>
>
> And in what way is that remotely relevant to anything at all?

It's relevant to:-

"Because from the moment railways were invented and started being built,
canals were economically unviable."
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