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Author: SquashmeSquashme Date: Aug 21, 2008 13:18
I guess this had to happen.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7575653.stm
"Because electric-powered buggies are not classed as motor vehicles, a
rider cannot be prosecuted for a motoring offence, although a
prosecution for assault or even manslaughter would be possible.
Scooters do not need insurance and are not governed by the same road
traffic laws as regular vehicles.
However, they are limited to speeds of 4mph (6km/h) on pavements and
8mph (13km/h) on the road."
How are they limited?
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Author: MortimerMortimer Date: Aug 21, 2008 13:28
>
> I guess this had to happen.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7575653.stm
>
> "Because electric-powered buggies are not classed as motor vehicles, a
> rider cannot be prosecuted for a motoring offence, although a
> prosecution for assault or even manslaughter would be possible.
> Scooters do not need insurance and are not governed by the same road
> traffic laws as regular vehicles.
Simple: change the law so that buggies and bikes *are* subject to the same
rules as other road users and the riders *can* be prosecuted for offences
such as going through red lights, speeding, injuring/killing someone (either
directly or because they make another road user swerve out of their way into
the path of someone else).
WTF wasn't this done immediately each new form of transport was invented?
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Author: SquashmeSquashme Date: Aug 21, 2008 13:44
On 21 Aug, 21:28, "Mortimer" privacy.net> wrote:>> I guess this had to happen.
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>> "Because electric-powered buggies are not classed as motor vehicles, a
>> rider cannot be prosecuted for a motoring offence, although a
>> prosecution for assault or even manslaughter would be possible.
>> Scooters do not need insurance and are not governed by the same road
>> traffic laws as regular vehicles.
>
> Simple: change the law so that buggies and bikes *are* subject to the same
> rules as other road users and the riders *can* be prosecuted for offences
> such as going through red lights, speeding, injuring/killing someone (either ...
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Author: David HansenDavid Hansen Date: Aug 21, 2008 14:08
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:28:48 +0100 someone who may be "Mortimer"
privacy.net> wrote this:-
>Simple: change the law so that buggies and bikes *are* subject to the same
>rules as other road users and the riders *can* be prosecuted for offences
>such as going through red lights, speeding, injuring/killing someone (either
>directly or because they make another road user swerve out of their way into
>the path of someone else).
Yawn. With the exception of motor vehicle speed limits which,
surprise surprise, apply to operators of motor vehicles bike riders
can be prosecuted for such things.
So can motorists. You may not be aware of this, but some people do
break the law.
Nice try. Next contestant please.
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Author: Mark GoodgeMark Goodge Date: Aug 21, 2008 14:10
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:18:59 -0700 (PDT), Squashme put finger to
keyboard and typed:
>
>I guess this had to happen.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7575653.stm
>
>"Because electric-powered buggies are not classed as motor vehicles, a
>rider cannot be prosecuted for a motoring offence, although a
>prosecution for assault or even manslaughter would be possible.
>Scooters do not need insurance and are not governed by the same road
>traffic laws as regular vehicles.
>However, they are limited to speeds of 4mph (6km/h) on pavements and
>8mph (13km/h) on the road."
>
>How are they limited?
Do you mean how, legally, or how, in practice?
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Date: Aug 21, 2008 14:30
> Although the machines are intended for the elderly and infirm, riders
> do not need to be registered disabled or be OAPs. The only legal
> requirement is to be over the age of 14."
That is wrong. The Use of Invalid Carriages on Highways Regulations 1988
limit the use of Class 3 vehicles (mobility scooters with an 8mph maximum
speed) to a disabled person, over the age of 14, or to an able-bodied person
who is demonstrating the vehicle prior to a sale, training a disabled person
or taking it to or from a place for maintenance or repair.
Colin Bignell
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Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:47
On 21 Aug, 21:18, Squashme gmail.com> wrote:> I guess this had to happen.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7575653.stm
>
> "Because electric-powered buggies are not classed as motor vehicles, a
> rider cannot be prosecuted for a motoring offence, although a
> prosecution for assault or even manslaughter would be possible.
> Scooters do not need insurance and are not governed by the same road
> traffic laws as regular vehicles.
> However, they are limited to speeds of 4mph (6km/h) on pavements and
> 8mph (13km/h) on the road."
>
> How are they limited?
Here we go again! "Let's divert attention away from the slaughter on
our roads primarily caused by motorists by cherry picking unusual
events". The motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup try to
get the boot in to other forms of transport at every possible
opportunity.
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Author: GraculusGraculus Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:51
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> Here we go again! "Let's divert attention away from the slaughter on
> our roads primarily caused by motorists by cherry picking unusual
> events".
Excuse me, but YOU cherry pick unusual events and post them here fairly
regularly. It may not have occurred to you, but a car running into a bus
queue is not a usual event, and that is why it gets reported.
Anyway, no one gives a f*** what you think.
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Aug 22, 2008 00:30
Doug wrote:
> On 21 Aug, 21:18, Squashme gmail.com> wrote:>> I guess this had to happen.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7575653.stm
>>
>> "Because electric-powered buggies are not classed as motor vehicles, a
>> rider cannot be prosecuted for a motoring offence, although a
>> prosecution for assault or even manslaughter would be possible.
>> Scooters do not need insurance and are not governed by the same road
>> traffic laws as regular vehicles.
>> However, they are limited to speeds of 4mph (6km/h) on pavements and
>> 8mph (13km/h) on the road."
>>
>> How are they limited? >
> Here we go again! "Let's divert attention away from the slaughter on
> our roads primarily caused by motorists by cherry picking unusual
> events". The motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup try to
> get the boot in to other forms of transport at every possible ...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Aug 22, 2008 00:39
Doug wrote:
> On 21 Aug, 21:18, Squashme gmail.com> wrote:>> I guess this had to happen.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/7575653.stm
>>
>> "Because electric-powered buggies are not classed as motor vehicles,
>> a rider cannot be prosecuted for a motoring offence, although a
>> prosecution for assault or even manslaughter would be possible.
>> Scooters do not need insurance and are not governed by the same road
>> traffic laws as regular vehicles.
>> However, they are limited to speeds of 4mph (6km/h) on pavements and
>> 8mph (13km/h) on the road."
>>
>> How are they limited? >
> Here we go again! "Let's divert attention away from the slaughter on
> our roads primarily caused by motorists by cherry picking unusual
> events". The motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup try to
> get the boot in to other forms of transport at every possible ...
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