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Why carbon capture and storage wonÂ’t save the climate. Full report.         


Author: Doug
Date: Sep 5, 2008 09:55

For those motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup and fail to
see a connection between this article and transport here is are some
hints, power station/electric train/battery charging/hydrogen
production.

"Carbon capture and storage (CCS) aims to reduce the climate impact of
burning fossil fuels by capturing carbon dioxide (CO2) from power
station smokestacks and disposing of it underground. Its future
development has been widely promoted by the coal industry as a
justification for the construction of new coal-fired power plants.
However, the technology is largely unproven and will not be ready in
time to save the climate."

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/press/reports/false-hope

http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/international/press/reports/false-hope.pdf

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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won't save the climate. Full report.         


Author: Knight Of The Road
Date: Sep 5, 2008 10:18

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote
> For those motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup

There's only one thing that dominates this newsgroup, Doug.

--
Regards, Vince.

Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary Luton-Huelva

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won’t save the climate. Full report.         


Author: Graculus
Date: Sep 5, 2008 10:31

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:5992ca99-b4c2-4d2e-bf26-08451ae60554@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> For those motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup and fail to
> see a connection between this article and transport here is are some
> hints, power station/electric train/battery charging/hydrogen
> production.

Bzzzz. WRONG! Thank you for playing.

You are making the connection and vaguely relating something to transport.
No-one else is.

Should I talk about pruning my fuschia on this newsgroup because it was no
doubt brought by truck to the garden centre, and then by car to my house? It
has about as much connection.
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won't save the climate. Full report.         


Date: Sep 5, 2008 10:29

Doug riseup.net> wrote:
> "Carbon capture and storage (CCS) aims to reduce the climate impact of
> burning fossil fuels by capturing carbon dioxide (CO2) from power
> station smokestacks and disposing of it underground. Its future
> development has been widely promoted by the coal industry as a
> justification for the construction of new coal-fired power plants.
> However, the technology is largely unproven and will not be ready in
> time to save the climate."

Do you ever get tired of blowing off your own toes Duhng? The
first carbon capture power station is already working.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7584151.stm
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won't save the climate. Full report.         


Author: Boltar
Date: Sep 5, 2008 11:05

On 5 Sep, 18:29, %%ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> Do you ever get tired of blowing off your own toes Duhng? The
> first carbon capture power station is already working.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7584151.stm

As usual greenpeace complain about just about bloody everything.
Perhaps they'd be happier if the CO2 was just released into the
atmosphere instead of the power company trying to make an effort to
sequester it. They're just becoming a parody. Probably full of muppets
like Doug.

B2003
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won’t save the climate. Full report.         


Author: John Wright
Date: Sep 5, 2008 11:46

Doug wrote:
> For those motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup and fail to
> see a connection between this article and transport here is are some
> hints, power station/electric train/battery charging/hydrogen
> production.
>
> "Carbon capture and storage (CCS) aims to reduce the climate impact of
> burning fossil fuels by capturing carbon dioxide (CO2) from power
> station smokestacks and disposing of it underground. Its future
> development has been widely promoted by the coal industry as a
> justification for the construction of new coal-fired power plants.
> However, the technology is largely unproven and will not be ready in
> time to save the climate."

Only one thing *would* save the climate in your world - that's if we all
went back to the stone age.

--
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won’t save the climate. Full report.         


Author: Tony Dragon
Date: Sep 5, 2008 12:50

John Wright wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>> For those motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup and fail to
>> see a connection between this article and transport here is are some
>> hints, power station/electric train/battery charging/hydrogen
>> production.
>>
>> "Carbon capture and storage (CCS) aims to reduce the climate impact of
>> burning fossil fuels by capturing carbon dioxide (CO2) from power
>> station smokestacks and disposing of it underground. Its future
>> development has been widely promoted by the coal industry as a
>> justification for the construction of new coal-fired power plants.
>> However, the technology is largely unproven and will not be ready in
>> time to save the climate."
>
> Only one thing *would* save the climate in your world - that's if we all
> went back to...
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won't save the climate. Full report.         


Date: Sep 5, 2008 14:22

Boltar yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> As usual greenpeace complain about just about bloody everything.
> Perhaps they'd be happier if the CO2 was just released into the
> atmosphere instead of the power company trying to make an effort to
> sequester it. They're just becoming a parody. Probably full of muppets
> like Doug.

There was a program on R4 last week where someone ex-~Greenpeace made
much the same point. As he said, the environmental lobby needs to stop
beign anti-everything negative know-alls (like Duhg), and to get off the
fence and decide which technologies they support and which they don't.

Interestingly he was against wind power on the basis that it isn't
performing that well in Denmark where 20%% of installed capacity is wind
generation and Denmark has the advantage of being able to balance its
load by feeding surpluses to Germany, Sweden and Holland. The UK doesn't
have the ability to balance load in the same way and needs to install
pump storage (which doesn't exist and isn't scheduled to be built).
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won't save the climate. Full report.         


Author: Knight Of The Road
Date: Sep 5, 2008 14:49

"Steve Firth" <%%steve%%@malloc.co.uk> wrote
> Interestingly he was against wind power on the basis that it isn't
> performing that well in Denmark

I'm against wind power on the grounds that Denmark used to be beautiful and
now it is ugly, thanks entirely to wind turbines.

Cornwall is the same.

--
Regards, Vince.

Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary Luton-Huelva

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)
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Re: Why carbon capture and storage won't save the climate. Full report.         


Author: Tony Dragon
Date: Sep 5, 2008 15:10

Steve Firth wrote:
> Boltar yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> As usual greenpeace complain about just about bloody everything.
>> Perhaps they'd be happier if the CO2 was just released into the
>> atmosphere instead of the power company trying to make an effort to
>> sequester it. They're just becoming a parody. Probably full of muppets
>> like Doug.
>
> There was a program on R4 last week where someone ex-~Greenpeace made
> much the same point. As he said, the environmental lobby needs to stop
> beign anti-everything negative know-alls (like Duhg), and to get off the
> fence and decide which technologies they support and which they don't.
>
> Interestingly he was against wind power on the basis that it isn't
> performing that well in Denmark where 20%% of installed capacity is wind
> generation and Denmark has the advantage of being able to balance its
> load by feeding surpluses to Germany, Sweden and Holland. The UK doesn't
> have the ability to balance load in the same way and needs to install
> pump storage (which doesn't exist and isn't scheduled to be built). ...
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