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Author: DougDoug Date: Sep 10, 2007 01:59
"· Ownership set to rise from 27.8m to 33.5m
· Use tolls to improve public transport, says group
Dan Milmo, transport correspondent
Monday September 10, 2007
The Guardian
Britain will descend into "traffic hell" with nearly 6m more cars
running on British roads by 2031, an environmental group has warned.
The Campaign for Better Transport is urging the government to cut car
use by investing in the rail network, as well as improving bus
services and making public transport cheaper.
According to government projections, a further 5.7m cars will be on
British roads over the next 20 years, increasing the overall traffic
load by 30%%. Stephen Joseph, executive director of the Campaign for
Better Transport, said: "We can't go on like this. Traffic is
destroying our communities, our health and our environment. The
government must stop catering for all this traffic and instead give
people and businesses good alternatives to driving."
More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport/Story/0,,2165914,00.html
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Date: Sep 10, 2007 02:12
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> According to government projections, a further 5.7m cars will be on
> British roads over the next 20 years, increasing the overall traffic
> load by 30%%.
So we need more roads it's rather simple that. One thing that has been proved
by the last 20 years of massive under investment in the road network is the
argument that it's building more roads that causes...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Sep 10, 2007 02:44
Depresion wrote:
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>> According to government projections, a further 5.7m cars will be on
>> British roads over the next 20 years, increasing the overall traffic
>> load by 30%%.
>
> So we need more roads it's rather simple that. One thing that has
> been proved by the last 20 years of massive under investment in the
> road network is the argument that it's building more roads that
> causes more cars on the roads. The problem is that if the government
> were to build the extra road capacity required to bring us in to line
> with most of Europe over the next 20 years and we got the extra 5.7m
> cars the ignorant campaigners would forget that the prediction was
> made now and take it as proof despite the fact the evidence is
> contrary. The truth is that car ownership is related to national
> economic growth, when we have had good economic growth that has
> fuelled an increase in car ownership, the increased mobility has
> enabled people to work further from home in jobs better suited to ...
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Author: AboAbo Date: Sep 10, 2007 04:34
Doug wrote:
> "· Ownership set to rise from 27.8m to 33.5m
> · Use tolls to improve public transport, says group
>
> Dan Milmo, transport correspondent
> Monday September 10, 2007
> The Guardian
>
> Britain will descend into "traffic hell" with nearly 6m more cars
> running on British roads by 2031
Build more roads
Use improve public transport, the system outside the M25 seems to assume
you must work in the same town as you live
Promote telecommuting
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Author: AboAbo Date: Sep 10, 2007 04:35
Brimstone wrote:
> Depresion wrote:
>>> According to government projections, a further 5.7m cars will be on
>>> British roads over the next 20 years, increasing the overall traffic
>>> load by 30%%.
>> So we need more roads it's rather simple that. One thing that has
>> been proved by the last 20 years of massive under investment in the
>> road network is the argument that it's building more roads that
>> causes more cars on the roads. The problem is that if the government
>> were to build the extra road capacity required to bring us in to line
>> with most of Europe over the next 20 years and we got the extra 5.7m
>> cars the ignorant campaigners would forget that the prediction was
>> made now and take it as proof despite the fact the evidence is
>> contrary. The truth is that car ownership is related to national
>> economic growth, when we have had good economic growth that has
>> fuelled an increase in car ownership, the increased mobility has
>> enabled people to work further from home in jobs better suited to
>> them thus fuelling economic growth. The best way to cut car sales ...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Sep 10, 2007 04:54
Abo wrote:
> Brimstone wrote:
>> Depresion wrote:
>>>> According to government projections, a further 5.7m cars will be on
>>>> British roads over the next 20 years, increasing the overall
>>>> traffic load by 30%%.
>>> So we need more roads it's rather simple that. One thing that has
>>> been proved by the last 20 years of massive under investment in the
>>> road network is the argument that it's building more roads that
>>> causes more cars on the roads. The problem is that if the government
>>> were to build the extra road capacity required to bring us in to
>>> line with most of Europe over the next 20 years and we got the
>>> extra 5.7m cars the ignorant campaigners would forget that the
>>> prediction was made now and take it as proof despite the fact the
>>> evidence is contrary. The truth is that car ownership is related to
>>> national economic growth, when we have had good economic growth
>>> that has fuelled an increase in car ownership, the increased
>>> mobility has enabled people to work further from home in jobs ...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Sep 10, 2007 04:58
Abo wrote:
> Doug wrote:
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Date: Sep 10, 2007 05:09
"Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:S9GdnQImjb3CrXjbnZ2dnUVZ8v6dnZ2d@bt.com...>
> I agree that different local situations will result in different local
> solutions but the question needs to be raised and discussed, "Do we want to
> live surrounded by car parks (in whatever form)?"
Or maybe the question should be, "Do we want to live with more car parks or
in economic decline?" You can't take the consequence out of the equation, as
pollsters will tell you how you put the question to someone will determine
the answer you get.
Should we give an extra
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Author: John WrightJohn Wright Date: Sep 10, 2007 06:00
Doug wrote:
> "· Ownership set to rise from 27.8m to 33.5m
> · Use tolls to improve public transport, says group
>
> Dan Milmo, transport correspondent
> Monday September 10, 2007
> The Guardian
>
> Britain will descend into "traffic hell" with nearly 6m more cars
> running on British roads by 2031, an environmental group has warned.
> The Campaign for Better Transport is urging the government to cut car
> use by investing in the rail network, as well as improving bus
> services and making public transport cheaper.
"The Campaign for Better Transport, formerly known as Transport 2000" as
it says in the article. Someone had better tell Transport 2000 that this
is their new name - their website seems not to know about it. The only
reference I can find is to a group in New Zealand.
Begins to sound like its made up to me.
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Author: ®i©ardo®i©ardo Date: Sep 10, 2007 06:01
Doug wrote:
> "· Ownership set to rise from 27.8m to 33.5m
> · Use tolls to improve public transport, says group
>
> Dan Milmo, transport correspondent
> Monday September 10, 2007
> The Guardian
>
> Britain will descend into "traffic hell" with nearly 6m more cars
> running on British roads by 2031, an environmental group has warned.
> The Campaign for Better Transport is urging the government to cut car
> use by investing in the rail network, as well as improving bus
> services and making public transport cheaper.
>
> According to government projections, a further 5.7m cars will be on
> British roads over the next 20 years, increasing the overall traffic
> load by 30%%. Stephen Joseph, executive director of the Campaign for
> Better Transport, said: "We can't go on like this. Traffic is
> destroying our communities, our health and our environment. The
> government must stop catering for all this traffic and instead give ...
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