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Author: Doug
Date: Sep 12, 2008 23:56

http://forlesspollutingcars.com/

"In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
km.

In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
every 100 km."

"The Industry Committee has voted earlier on 1st of September an
opinion which would significantly
weaken this bill a great deal, a vote which which is in stark
contrast with public opinion.

A recent poll showed that 87%% of European citizens think measures to
require carmakers to reduce the
fuel consumption of new cars by 25%% should be urgently introduced, and
that europeans consider climate
change to be the second biggest serious problem (62%%) facing the
world, after poverty (68%%).

It is extremely worrying and disappointing that the Industry Committee
put the interests of the
car industry over the people and the environment.
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Author: Knight Of The Road
Date: Sep 13, 2008 00:34

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote
> In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
> every 100 km."

Better than your Land Rover then?

--
Regards, Vince.

"To have masses of mouse droppings all over your food and utensils is very
unpleasant" ( Doug Bollen)
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Author: Adrian
Date: Sep 13, 2008 01:01

Doug riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
> "In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
> km.
>
> In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
> every 100 km."

Beetle 1.9TDi - official combined fuel economy = 52mpg = 5.4l/100km

Now contemplate the massive increases in secondary safety - impact
survivability - between the two, and how that might have contributed to
the rough doubling in weight between the two.
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Author: BrianW
Date: Sep 13, 2008 02:29

On 13 Sep, 07:56, Doug riseup.net> wrote:

Read that case on manslaughter yet, Gollum, you useless old turd?
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Author: Derek Geldard
Date: Sep 13, 2008 03:15

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:56:33 -0700 (PDT), Doug riseup.net>
wrote:
>http://forlesspoutingduhgs.com/
>
>"In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
>km.

That wasn't the first Beetle by a very long chalk.
>
>In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
>every 100 km."
>

Just plain wrong.

HTH.

Derek
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Author: Conor
Date: Sep 13, 2008 03:20

In article <2dabffa0-727e-4d0d-9524-
26a36b8276da@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> http://forlesspollutingcars.com/
>
> "In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
> km.
>
> In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
> every 100 km."
>
Quite probably.

Now what are the emissions?

--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Author: Conor
Date: Sep 13, 2008 03:27

In article <2dabffa0-727e-4d0d-9524-
26a36b8276da@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> http://forlesspollutingcars.com/
>
> "In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
> km.
>
> In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
> every 100 km."
>
Question 1) Which is more polluting:

a) My old 1986 Ford Capri 2L which does 36MPG but has no catalytic
converter, has an idle CO2 setting of 1.5%%-4.5%%, runs on a carburretor
and points and regularly needs retuning or,

b) My old 1998 Ford Mondeo 2L which does 36MPG but has a catalytic
convertor, has an idle CO2 setting of <0.5%%, runs on a fuel injection
system which constantly monitors the emissions and adjusts them
accordingly and never needs tuning?

Question 2) Which is more dangerous to pedestrians:
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Author: Tommy
Date: Sep 13, 2008 08:12

"Derek Geldard" miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b94nc45odmiaftj6guj3m17fsjneac2l7v@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:56:33 -0700 (PDT), Doug riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>>http://forlesspoutingduhgs.com/
>>
>>"In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
>>km.
>
> That wasn't the first Beetle by a very long chalk.
>
>>
>>In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
>>every 100 km."
>>
>
> Just plain wrong.
>
> HTH. ...
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Author: Ian
Date: Sep 13, 2008 09:29

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:2dabffa0-727e-4d0d-9524-26a36b8276da@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> http://forlesspollutingcars.com/
>
> "In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
> km.
>
> In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
> every 100 km."
>
> "The Industry Committee has voted earlier on 1st of September an
> opinion which would significantly
> weaken this bill a great deal, a vote which which is in stark
> contrast with public opinion.
>
> A recent poll showed that 87%% of European citizens think measures to
> require carmakers to reduce the
> fuel consumption of new cars by 25%% should be urgently introduced, and
> that europeans consider climate
> change to be the second biggest serious problem (62%%) facing the ...
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Author: Ian
Date: Sep 13, 2008 09:35

"Conor" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6j1iscF11pdjU6@mid.individual.net...
> In article <2dabffa0-727e-4d0d-9524-
> 26a36b8276da@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>> http://forlesspollutingcars.com/
>>
>> "In 1948, the first Beetle consumed 7.5 litres of petrol for every 100
>> km.
>>
>> In 2008, the new Beetle consumes...the same! 7.5 litres of petrol for
>> every 100 km."
>>
> Question 1) Which is more polluting:
>
> a) My old 1986 Ford Capri 2L which does 36MPG but has no catalytic
> converter, has an idle CO2 setting of 1.5%%-4.5%%, runs on a carburretor
> and points and regularly needs retuning or,
>
> b) My old 1998 Ford Mondeo 2L which does 36MPG but has a catalytic
> convertor, has an idle CO2 setting of <0.5%%, runs on a fuel injection ...
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