JNugent wrote:
> Brimstone wrote:
>
>> JNugent wrote:
>>> Brimstone wrote:>>
>>>> JNugent wrote:
>
>>>>> And what about a route from North to South Wales (and return!)
>>>>> without having to travel east into England?
>
>>>> Where would you put it
>
>>> Wherever it needed to go.
>
>> Which would be where, in your opinion?
>
> I'd say the main population centres of the N and S need to be
> connected, with access to the larger towns in mid-Wales along the way
> - and even a link to Shrewsbury for access to the A5 (and thence
> M54/M6/A50/M1/A14).
I wouldn't disagree with the road from Aberystwyth to Welspool and on to
Shrewsbury being upgraded.
> The easterly route would be Cardiff/M4, Abergavenny (and a link to the
> Heads Of The Valleys road), Knighton, Newtown, Welshpool, Wrexham and
> Ewloe (for connection to A55 expressway for access to the coastal
> strip which is where the N Wales population mainly is).
>
> A more westerly route would have to pass through the Brecon Beacons
> and so would probably be unacceptable to too many people.
>
>>> Look at Italian autostrada (eg, the A1 Parma - Firenze, or the A12
>>> at Genoa), built for tens of miles at a time through mountainous
>>> topography - it's all do-able.
>
>> No one has said otherwise. The Swiss also "do" mountainous roads.
>
> Good.
>
>>>> and would the amount of traffic available to use it
>>>> justify the expenditure of building a high specifaction road
>>>> through such difficult topography?
>
>>> It doesn't seem to give other countries any problem to build parts
>>> of the motorway network that are not necessarily going to be as
>>> heavily-trafficked as the M25 and M6.
>
>> If this were to be part of a longer through route I would agree, but
>> a motorway going from somewhere on or near the north Wales coast to
>> somewhere on or near the south Wales coast does seem a tad
>> extravagant. Upgrading the road along the west coast to a dual
>> carriageway (roughly A55 at Bangor, Caernarvon, Harlech,
>> Aberystwyth, Fishguard and joining the end of the M4) would make
>> much more sense I suggest. Mainly 'cause there's bugger all in the
>> middle except lots of sheep and cattle.
>
> That's more or less what I am suggesting - though it's best to keep it
> as a (dual 2 lane?) motorway in order to prevent hay-wagons,
> milk-floats and cyclists from hogging it. And ban lorries from the
> offside lane netween 6 am and 9 pm.
Where roads is the displaced traffic supposed to use, or are you suggesting
an additional road (rather than an upgrade) to what's already there?