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Author: DougDoug Date: Sep 10, 2008 22:37
"The car will lose in significance, and we have to move away from oil
and from modes of transport that hurt the climate. What this means in
reality: Our cities will change again. We are now experiencing the
passing of an era."
-Norman Foster, from one of the World's top architectural firms,
Foster and Partners, mastermind behind Abu Dhabi's carfree city
project of Masdar, on the future of cities. Translated from an
interview with ZEIT, on Aug.21.
www.zeit.de
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Author: Mike PMike P Date: Sep 11, 2008 03:41
Doug wrote:
> "The car will lose in significance, and we have to move away from oil
> and from modes of transport that hurt the climate. What this means in
> reality: Our cities will change again. We are now experiencing the
> passing of an era."
>
> -Norman Foster, from one of the World's top architectural firms,
> Foster and Partners, mastermind behind Abu Dhabi's carfree city
> project of Masdar, on the future of cities. Translated from an
> interview with ZEIT, on Aug.21.
> www.zeit.de
Architects are very clever people, unfortunately IME without a connection to
the real world. There's four in my extended family, all very talented but
with no sense of reality..
Mike P
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Author: francisfrancis Date: Sep 11, 2008 04:03
On 11 Sep, 06:37, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> "The car will lose in significance, and we have to move away from oil
> and from modes of transport that hurt the climate. What this means in
> reality: Our cities will change again. We are now experiencing the
> passing of an era."
>
> -Norman Foster, from one of the World's top architectural firms,
> Foster and Partners, mastermind behind Abu Dhabi's carfree city
> project of Masdar, on the future of cities. Translated from an
> interview with ZEIT, on Aug.21.www.zeit.de
>
> --
> World Carfree Networkhttp://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
This would be the Norman Foster the architec of the Millau Viaduct
that can only be used by cars?
Francis
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Sep 11, 2008 04:10
francis yahoo.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:
> This would be the Norman Foster the architec of the Millau Viaduct that
> can only be used by cars?
That's not so much a factor of Foster's design, though, as of it's use by
a "Hitlerian Motorway".
I do know one thing - even if a cyclepath was available across it, I
wouldn't bloody fancy using it...!
(thinks: I wonder why Duhg's never complained that peds/cyclists can't
use the Channel Tunnel)
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Author: DerekDerek Date: Sep 11, 2008 04:17
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:37:21 -0700 (PDT), Doug riseup.net>
wrote:
>"The car will lose in significance, and we have to move away from oil
>and from modes of transport that hurt the climate. What this means in
>reality: Our cities will change again. We are now experiencing the
>passing of an era."
>
From the Abu Dhabi tourist website :
http://www.exploreabudhabi.ae/en/default.aspx
" Things to do ...
Off-road Driving"
and ...
Li mayaÂ’rif il-shaheen yishweeh
"Those who pick up a trade where they have no experience or take over
a task where they have no skills are bound to do more harm than good."
Right up your street it is Luhgless.
Derek
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Author: philipukphilipuk Date: Sep 11, 2008 05:35
On 11 Sep, 12:10, Adrian gmail.com> wrote:> francis yahoo.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>>> This would be the Norman Foster the architec of the Millau Viaduct that
>> can only be used by cars?
>
> That's not so much a factor of Foster's design, though, as of it's use by
> a "Hitlerian Motorway".
>
> I do know one thing - even if a cyclepath was available across it, I
> wouldn't bloody fancy using it...!
>
> (thinks: I wonder why Duhg's never complained that peds/cyclists can't
> use the Channel Tunnel)
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Sep 11, 2008 05:45
"philipuk@ gmail.com" gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:
>> (thinks: I wonder why Duhg's never complained that peds/cyclists can't
>> use the Channel Tunnel)
> Ah but cyclists can:
No, they can't. They've still got to use the train, and they're forced to
use a minibus and trailer to do so... He's moaned before about having to
load bicycles into a trailer behind a car for the Dartford tunnel.
To suit Duhg's requirements, consistently, cyclists should be able to
cycle through the tunnel, and pedestrians walk.
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Sep 11, 2008 05:53
Adrian wrote:
> "philipuk@ gmail.com" gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>>>> (thinks: I wonder why Duhg's never complained that peds/cyclists
>>> can't use the Channel Tunnel)
>
>> Ah but cyclists can:
>
> No, they can't. They've still got to use the train, and they're
> forced to use a minibus and trailer to do so... He's moaned before
> about having to load bicycles into a trailer behind a car for the
> Dartford tunnel.
>
> To suit Duhg's requirements, consistently, cyclists should be able to
> cycle through the tunnel, and pedestrians walk.
Indeed, perhaps a fourth tunnel should have been built for their sole use?
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Author: Mike PMike P Date: Sep 11, 2008 05:58
Brimstone wrote:
> Adrian wrote:
>> "philipuk@ gmail.com" gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding
>> much like they were saying:
>>>>>> (thinks: I wonder why Duhg's never complained that peds/cyclists
>>>> can't use the Channel Tunnel)
>>
>>> Ah but cyclists can:
>>
>> No, they can't. They've still got to use the train, and they're
>> forced to use a minibus and trailer to do so... He's moaned before
>> about having to load bicycles into a trailer behind a car for the
>> Dartford tunnel.
>>
>> To suit Duhg's requirements, consistently, cyclists should be able to
>> cycle through the tunnel, and pedestrians walk.
>
> Indeed, perhaps a fourth tunnel should have been built for their sole
> use? ...
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Sep 11, 2008 06:12
"Mike P" privacy.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:
>>>>> (thinks: I wonder why Duhg's never complained that peds/cyclists
>>>>> can't use the Channel Tunnel)
>>>> Ah but cyclists can:
>>> No, they can't. They've still got to use the train, and they're forced
>>> to use a minibus and trailer to do so... He's moaned before about
>>> having to load bicycles into a trailer behind a car for the Dartford
>>> tunnel.
>>> To suit Duhg's requirements, consistently, cyclists should be able to
>>> cycle through the tunnel, and pedestrians walk.
>> Indeed, perhaps a fourth tunnel should have been built for their sole
>> use?
> Yeah, I can just see all those people walking the 20 miles or whatever
> it is... ;-)
Will you fuck off and stop muddying the water with your "reality" crap?
We don't need your sort round here.
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