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Author: DougDoug Date: Jun 30, 2008 07:18
The motorists who dominate and infest this newsgroup always gloat
about how their car-dependent suburban lifestyle is superior to urban
living. But if you scratch underneath the glossy veneer, it soon
becomes clear that suburbs are a bleak, miserable place plagued by
crime, isolation, obesity, and social deprivation. The failure of this
unsustainable way of life has once again come to the surface:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/26/ukcrime.drugsandalcohol
"What was a cottage industry is now a slick and secret network of
factories and farms, many based in respectable suburbs."
While suburbs are slowly rotting away, vibrant communities in urban
cores are going from strength to strength. I wonder how long it will
take for the blinkered motorists to notice? Given their anti-social
attitude and tendency to isolate themselves from the rest of the world
in steel cocoons, probably not until they live in a outright slum.
Doug
Reclaim the streets
http://rts.gn.apc.org/
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Author: FodFod Date: Jun 30, 2008 07:41
On Jun 30, 3:18Â pm, Doug googlemail.com> wrote:> The motorists who dominate and infest this newsgroup always gloat
> about how their car-dependent suburban lifestyle is superior to urban
> living. But if you scratch underneath the glossy veneer, it soon
> becomes clear that suburbs are a bleak, miserable place plagued by
> crime, isolation, obesity, and social deprivation. The failure of this
> unsustainable way of life has once again come to the surface:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/26/ukcrime.drugsandalcohol
>
> "What was a cottage industry is now a slick and secret network of
> factories and farms, many based in respectable suburbs."
>
> While suburbs are slowly rotting away, vibrant communities in urban
> cores are going from strength to strength. I wonder how...
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Author: Mike PMike P Date: Jun 30, 2008 07:42
> The motorists who dominate and infest this newsgroup always gloat
> about how their car-dependent suburban lifestyle is superior to urban
> living. But if you scratch underneath the glossy veneer, it soon
> becomes clear that suburbs are a bleak, miserable place plagued by
> crime, isolation, obesity, and social deprivation. The failure of this
> unsustainable way of life has once again come to the surface:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/26/ukcrime.drugsandalcohol
>
> "What was a cottage industry is now a slick and secret network of
> factories and farms, many based in respectable suburbs."
>
> While suburbs are slowly rotting away, vibrant communities in urban
> cores are going from strength to strength. I wonder how long it will
> take for the blinkered motorists to notice? Given their anti-social
> attitude and tendency to isolate themselves from the rest of the world
> in steel cocoons, probably not until they live in a outright slum.
> ...
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Author: FodFod Date: Jun 30, 2008 07:44
On Jun 30, 3:18Â pm, Doug googlemail.com> wrote:> The motorists who dominate and infest this newsgroup always gloat
> about how their car-dependent suburban lifestyle is superior to urban
> living. But if you scratch underneath the glossy veneer, it soon
> becomes clear that suburbs are a bleak, miserable place plagued by
> crime, isolation, obesity, and social deprivation. The failure of this
> unsustainable way of life has once again come to the surface:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/26/ukcrime.drugsandalcohol
>
> "What was a cottage industry is now a slick and secret network of
> factories and farms, many based in respectable suburbs."
>
> While suburbs are slowly rotting away, vibrant communities in urban
> cores are going from strength to strength.
care to give some examples of cities being such nice places to live?
Whats the betting that for every such story i could find a negative
story about living in a city?
Fod
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Author: Mike PMike P Date: Jun 30, 2008 07:48
"Fod" googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:e203270d-2b38-4952-aa86-0178af84ed1b@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 30, 3:18 pm, Doug googlemail.com> wrote:> The motorists who dominate and infest this newsgroup always gloat
> about how their car-dependent suburban lifestyle is superior to urban
> living. But if you scratch underneath the glossy veneer, it soon
> becomes clear that suburbs are a bleak, miserable place plagued by
> crime, isolation, obesity, and social deprivation. The failure of this
> unsustainable way of life has once again come to the surface:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/26/ukcrime.drugsandalcohol
>
> "What was a cottage industry is now a slick and secret network of
> factories and farms, many based in respectable suburbs."...
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Author: NotMeNotMe Date: Jun 30, 2008 08:06
On 30 Jun, 15:18, Doug googlemail.com> wrote:
> "What was a cottage industry is now a slick and secret network of
> factories and farms, many based in respectable suburbs."
Take for example this well known pedaller:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gollumofcatford/2620828418/
That looks like suburbier to me, and the bloke pictured could have
been in one of the pictures of heroin addict that had plastered around
my school. He also looks old enough to be from the flower power
generation, and does not like using drugs tested on animals. Makes you
wonder who would want to live in a drug ridden place like Catford.
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Date: Jun 30, 2008 09:34
Doug googlemail.com> wrote:
> While suburbs are slowly rotting away, vibrant communities in urban
> cores are going from strength to strength.
Errrm, Catford is a suburb. And I agree with you about what a shithole
it is.
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Author: JNugentJNugent Date: Jun 30, 2008 10:43
Doug wrote:
> The motorists who dominate and infest this newsgroup always gloat
> about how their car-dependent suburban lifestyle is superior to urban
> living. But if you scratch underneath the glossy veneer, it soon
> becomes clear that suburbs are a bleak, miserable place plagued by
> crime, isolation, obesity, and social deprivation. The failure of this
> unsustainable way of life has once again come to the surface:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jun/26/ukcrime.drugsandalcohol
>
> "What was a cottage industry is now a slick and secret network of
> factories and farms, many based in respectable suburbs."
>
> While suburbs are slowly rotting away, vibrant communities in urban
> cores are going from strength to strength. I wonder how long it will
> take for the blinkered motorists to notice? Given their anti-social
> attitude and tendency to isolate themselves from the rest of the world
> in steel cocoons, probably not until they live in a outright slum.
>
> Doug ...
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Author: DougDoug Date: Jun 30, 2008 13:19
> Errrm, Catford is a suburb. And I agree with you about what a shithole
> it is.
Wrong again. Catford has a proper town centre, a village green, mixed
use zoning, grid topology, and good public transport. So not a suburb
in the modern sense of the word. Not like those ghastly places outside
the M25 consisting of homogeneous detached housing subdivisions/ cul
de sacs / megamalls / business parks. Besides, Catford has been a part
of London proper for ages. It's no more a suburb than Kensington.
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Author: nik.morgannik.morgan Date: Jun 30, 2008 13:29
>> Errrm, Catford is a suburb. And I agree with you about what a shithole
>> it is.
>
> Wrong again. Catford has a proper town centre, a village green, mixed
> use zoning, grid topology, and good public transport. So not a suburb
> in the modern sense of the word. Not like those ghastly places outside
> the M25 consisting of homogeneous detached housing subdivisions/ cul
> de sacs / megamalls / business parks. Besides, Catford has been a part
> of London proper for ages. It's no more a suburb than Kensington.
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