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Author: Conor
Date: Mar 14, 2008 09:19

Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our
estate. It doesn't need a bloody 20MPH limit because nobody comes
steaming around here anyway. OTOH, they're going to put a traffic
island in at the junction at the end of my road. Fucking top idea that
- it'll stop the bus from being able to turn right into the estate.

And they're wanting to put loads of signage up around the local infants
school even though pretty much everyone around here or visiting here
knows its here and I counted a total of 13 cars doing the school run.

Sent the Highways Engineer an e-mail with my thoughts and pointed out
that if he did want to spend the remaining 2007-08 budget, putting in
parking restrictions to sort out a seriously bad pinch point on the
main road at the bottom of my street might be a better idea. But as
that actually solves a problem instead of creating one, it won't be
listened to.

Creating a 20MPH area with "gateway features" on the entry roads and
implementing a "school safety zone" seems a waste of money and
completely pointless in an area where I can't recall there being a
single accident in the 11+ years I've lived here.

Doug will be pleased though.
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Author: Graculus
Date: Mar 14, 2008 09:59

"Conor" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:63vmrpF29dvlfU3@mid.individual.net...
> Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our
> estate. It doesn't need a bloody 20MPH limit because nobody comes
> steaming around here anyway. OTOH, they're going to put a traffic
> island in at the junction at the end of my road. Fucking top idea that
> - it'll stop the bus from being able to turn right into the estate.
>
> And they're wanting to put loads of signage up around the local infants
> school even though pretty much everyone around here or visiting here
> knows its here and I counted a total of 13 cars doing the school run.
>
> Sent the Highways Engineer an e-mail with my thoughts and pointed out
> that if he did want to spend the remaining 2007-08 budget, putting in
> parking restrictions to sort out a seriously bad pinch point on the
> main road at the bottom of my street might be a better idea. But as
> that actually solves a problem instead of creating one, it won't be
> listened to.
>
> Creating a 20MPH area with "gateway features" on the entry roads and ...
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Author: PeterT
Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:21

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:19:03 -0000, Conor hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our
>estate. It doesn't need a bloody 20MPH limit because nobody comes
>steaming around here anyway. OTOH, they're going to put a traffic...
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Author: PeterT
Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:23

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:59:14 -0000, "Graculus"
hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>"Conor" hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:63vmrpF29dvlfU3@mid.individual.net...
>> Sodding Council have just posted a letter proposing a 20MPH on our
>> estate. It doesn't need a bloody...
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Date: Mar 14, 2008 10:53

Conor hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sent the Highways Engineer an e-mail with my thoughts and pointed out
> that if he did want to spend the remaining 2007-08 budget, putting in
> parking restrictions to sort out a seriously bad pinch point on the
> main road at the bottom of my street might be a better idea. But as
> that actually solves a problem instead of creating one, it won't be
> listened to.

As a professional driver you might be surprised how much value your
opinion has. A few years ago the local council here decided to permit
the construction of a barn in a location that would create a noise
nuisance for a handful of agriculural workers and would also have put
grain lorries onto a poor exit route to the "A" road. My neighbour who
was a retired HGV driver attended the planning enquiry without much hope
of being heard. However he stood up and explained that the sight lines
and gradients were inappropriate for access argued with a
wet-behind-the-ears highways engineer and surprisingly (to him) won the
day.
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Author: Conor
Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:47

In article <1idt02b.1w0gf6t1n0zt1vN%%%%steve%%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
says...
> It was his knowledge of the performance of LGVs and the limitiations of
> visibility that won the day. That and the ability to get across his
> message without losing his rag.
>
That's me buggered then - lol.

I sent them quite a detailed e-mail about it also referring to 20MPH
areas in Hull where the street design warranted it. Fingers crossed.

--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Author: GeoffC
Date: Mar 14, 2008 15:44

Steve Firth <%%steve%%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
>
> It was his knowledge of the performance of LGVs and the limitiations
> of visibility that won the day. That and the ability to get across
> his
> message without losing his rag.

I bet we all wish we could do that ;-)

--

Geoff
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Re: Sodding Council         


Date: Mar 14, 2008 17:20

GeoffC home.invalid.com> wrote:
> Steve Firth <%%steve%%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> It was his knowledge of the performance of LGVs and the limitiations
>> of visibility that won the day. That and the ability to get across
>> his
>> message without losing his rag.
>
> I bet we all wish we could do that ;-)

The fuck.
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Re: Sodding Council         


Author: Doug
Date: Mar 15, 2008 01:13

On 14 Mar, 17:53, %%ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> Conor hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sent the Highways Engineer an e-mail with my thoughts and pointed out
>> that if he did want to spend the remaining 2007-08 budget, putting in
>> parking restrictions to sort out a seriously bad pinch point on the
>> main road at the bottom of my street might be a better idea. But as
>> that actually solves a problem instead of creating one, it won't be
>> listened to.
>
> As a professional driver you might be surprised how much value your
> opinion has. A few years ago the local council here decided to permit
> the construction of a barn in a location that would create a noise
> nuisance for a handful of agriculural workers and would also have put
> grain lorries onto a poor exit route to the "A" road. My neighbour who
> was a retired HGV driver attended the planning enquiry without much hope
> of being heard. However he stood up and explained that the sight lines
> and gradients were inappropriate for access argued with a
> wet-behind-the-ears highways engineer and surprisingly (to him) won the
> day.
> ...
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Author: Brimstone
Date: Mar 15, 2008 01:53

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:c404cc40-25b8-476c-8705-6ce9c628e77f@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 14 Mar, 17:53, %%ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
>> Conor hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sent the Highways Engineer an e-mail with my thoughts and pointed out
>>> that if he did want to spend the remaining 2007-08 budget, putting in
>>> parking restrictions to sort out a seriously bad pinch point on the
>>> main road at the bottom of my street might be a better idea. But as
>>> that actually solves a problem instead of creating one, it won't be
>>> listened to.
>>
>> As a professional driver you might be surprised how much value your
>> opinion has. A few years ago the local council here decided to permit
>> the construction of a barn in a location that would create a noise
>> nuisance for a handful of agriculural workers and would also have put
>> grain lorries onto a poor exit route to the "A" road. My neighbour who
>> was a retired HGV driver attended the planning enquiry without much hope
>> of being heard. However he stood up and explained that the sight lines
>> and gradients were inappropriate for access argued with a
>> wet-behind-the-ears highways engineer and surprisingly (to him) won the ...
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