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Author: allan tracyallan tracy Date: Apr 11, 2008 11:43
Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
World War.
Link from the Indie
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-new-age-of-the-train-807789.h...
So, is it really a desire for more environmentally friendly transport
or, in fact, just another privatisation success story as the boom does
seem to have coincided with the railways falling into private hands.
Anyway, who cares because this is the DfT’s (and those New Labour
girl’s) worst nightmare?
The motivation behind rail privatisation was supposed to have finished
them off, not turned them into a success story – deep joy.
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Author: Enzo MatrixEnzo Matrix Date: Apr 11, 2008 11:47
allan tracy wrote:
> Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
> unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
> people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
> World War.
>
> Link from the Indie
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-new-age-of-the-train-807789.h...
>
> So, is it really a desire for more environmentally friendly transport
> or, in fact, just another privatisation success story as the boom does
> seem to have coincided with the railways falling into private hands.
Coincided? Phased privatisation started in 1994 and was complete in 1997.
> Anyway, who cares because this is the DfT
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Author: TommoTommo Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:06
On Apr 11, 7:47 pm, "Enzo Matrix" hotmail.com> wrote:> allan tracy wrote:
>> Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
>> unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
>> people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
>> World War.
>
>> Link from the Indie
>
>
>> So, is it really a desire for more environmentally friendly transport
>> or, in fact, just another privatisation success story as the boom does
>> seem to have coincided with the railways falling into private hands.
>
> Coincided? Phased privatisation started in 1994 and was complete in 1997.
>
>> Anyway, who cares because this is the DfT's (and those New Labour
>> girl's) worst nightmare?
> ...
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Author: Mel RowingMel Rowing Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:15
On Apr 11, 7:43 pm, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:> Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
> unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
> people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
> World War.
>
> Link from the Indie
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-new-age-of-the-tra...
>
> So, is it really a desire for more environmentally friendly transport
> or, in fact, just another privatisation success story as the boom does
> seem to have coincided with the railways falling into private hands.
>
> Anyway, who cares because this is the DfT's (and those New Labour
> girl's) worst nightmare?
>
> The motivation behind rail privatisation was supposed to have finished
> them off, not...
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Author: EE507EE507 Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:22
On Apr 11, 7:43 pm, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:> Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
> unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
> people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
> World War.
>
> Link from the Indie
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-new-age-of-the-tra...
>
> So, is it really a desire for more environmentally friendly transport
> or, in fact, just another privatisation success story as the boom does
> seem to have coincided with the railways falling into private hands.
The phrases 'despite privatisation' and 'hypermobility fuelled by
economic growth' spring to mind. Correlation does not equal
causality.
> Anyway, who cares because this is the DfT's (and those New Labour
> girl's) worst nightmare?
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Author: Mel RowingMel Rowing Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:25
On Apr 11, 8:22 pm, EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:> On Apr 11, 7:43 pm, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:> Yep, rationing by price is the #1 policy tool for rail almost every
> time (seasons being a distinct exception), yet road pricing is as
> distant as ever.
Tell me! Do you drive?
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Author: Peter MassonPeter Masson Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:36
> On Apr 11, 7:43 pm, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:>> Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
>> unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
>> people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
>> World War.
>>
>> Link from the Indie
>>
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-new-age-of-the-tra...
>>
>> So, is it really a desire for more environmentally friendly transport
>> or, in fact, just another privatisation success story as the boom does
>> seem to have coincided with the railways falling into private hands.
>>
>> Anyway, who cares because this is the DfT's (and those New Labour
>> girl's) worst nightmare?
>>
>> The motivation behind rail privatisation was supposed to have finished ...
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:36
"allan tracy" hotmail.com> wrote
Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
World War.
And given that the railways are now operating at absolute maximum capacity,
it rather makes a mockery of your oft-repeated suggestion that "all of the
trucks should be taken off of the road and freight should go by rail"
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Author: GazGaz Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:39
allan tracy wrote:
> Britain is witnessing the dawn of a new era of rail travel as an
> unprecedented demand for environmentally friendly transport encourages
> people to take more train journeys than at any time since the Second
> World War.
>
> Link from the Indie
>
I was laughed at on these groups, when i dared to suggest that Privatisation
was a success....
Gaz
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Author: EE507EE507 Date: Apr 11, 2008 12:42
On Apr 11, 8:25 pm, Mel Rowing btinternet.com> wrote:> On Apr 11, 8:22 pm, EE507 yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Apr 11, 7:43 pm, allan tracy hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep, rationing by price is the #1 policy tool for rail almost every
>> time (seasons being a distinct exception), yet road pricing is as
>> distant as ever.>
> Tell me! Do you drive?
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