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Re: Shocking new figures on road deaths in the UK!         

Group: uk.transport · Group Profile
Author: Brimstone
Date: Jul 2, 2008 01:43

BrianW wrote:
> On 2 Jul, 02:29, Ed Banger bangladesh.com> wrote:
>> In message
>> <0288220b-dac7-4a96-afb8-5ad1e8413...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>> Doug riseup.net> writes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 30 Jun, 19:07, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>> On 30 Jun, 13:09, Mike P gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hooray. Vision zero is still a long way off though. The numbers
>>>>>> might be low by historic standards, but they are still way too
>>>>>> high by civilised 21th century standards. Yes, horses used to
>>>>>> kill more people 100 years ago, but so did wars and epidemics -
>>>>>> human life was considered cheap back then and we can't use that
>>>>>> era as a comparison.
>>
>>>>>> According to the WHO, car accidents remain the 6th most common
>>>>>> cause of death in the developed world, as well as the most
>>>>>> common cause of premature death (number one killer in the 20-35
>>>>>> age group).
>>
>>>>>> In most developed countries, that chances that you will
>>>>>> eventually die in a car crash is somewhere between 1/100 and
>>>>>> 1/200, and the chances that you will be seriously injured or
>>>>>> maimed is three times higher.
>>
>>>>>> To visualise what that means, each one of us, on average, knows
>>>>>> one person in our extended circle of friends who has died or
>>>>>> will die in a car crash, and three persons who are maimed.
>>
>>>>>> Car accidents, along with depression and suicide, are one of the
>>>>>> major ills of our society, but unlike suicide, a lot more could
>>>>>> still be done to prevent them at little cost.
>>
>>>>> Fully agreed except that the term 'car accidents' is a convenient
>>>>> euphemism for 'car crashes'.
>>
>>>>> It would help if motorists were subject to the same laws as
>>>>> everyone else. If a pedestrian unintentionally kills another
>>>>> pedestrian that would be 'manslaughter', with a maximum penalty
>>>>> of life, but if he climbs into a car and then unintentionally
>>>>> kills someone it then becomes 'death by dangerous driving' with a
>>>>> maximum penalty of only 20 years. So more lenient laws are used
>>>>> for killer motorists.
>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> World Carfree Network
>>>>> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
>>>>> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
>>
>>>> I refer you to the answers given to you last week, and the week
>>>> before that, and the week before that, etc
>>
>>> I refer you to my response to those answers. Manslaughter is a more
>>> serious charge than death by dangerous driving and in exceptional
>>> circumstances the maximum sentence could be applied, i.e. life
>>> without parole but only 20 years for dangerous driving. That
>>> circumstance could be a clear case of murder which becomes death by
>>> dangerous driving due to a legal technicality.
>>
>> Fuck me, it's Groundhog Day.
>>
>> Again.
>
> You said that yesterday.

So which is Groundhog day? Yesterday or today?
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