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Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Doug
Date: Jul 3, 2008 22:05

Told you so! When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going to do
something about the government compelling you to use harmful biofuels?

"Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75%% - far more than
previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report
obtained by the Guardian.

The damning unpublished assessment is based on the most detailed
analysis of the crisis so far, carried out by an internationally-
respected economist at global financial body.

The figure emphatically contradicts the US government's claims that
plant-derived fuels contribute less than 3%% to food-price rises. It
will add to pressure on governments in Washington and across Europe,
which have turned to plant-derived fuels to reduce emissions of
greenhouse gases and reduce their dependence on imported oil..."

"...It will also put pressure on the British government, which is due
to release its own report on the impact of biofuels, the Gallagher
Report. The Guardian has previously reported that the British study
will state that plant fuels have played a "significant" part in
pushing up food prices to record levels. Although it was expected last
week, the report has still not been released..."
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Jul 4, 2008 00:48

Doug wrote:
> Told you so! When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going to do
> something about the government compelling you to use harmful biofuels?
>
The "government" doesn't force any company to produce bio-fuels so what is
the point in getting on their backs?
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: BrianW
Date: Jul 4, 2008 01:27

On 4 Jul, 06:05, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
> Told you so!  When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going to do
> something about the government compelling you to use harmful biofuels?
>
> "Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75%% - far more than
> previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report
> obtained by the Guardian.
>
> The damning unpublished assessment is based on the most detailed
> analysis of the crisis so far, carried out by an internationally-
> respected economist at global financial body.
>
> The figure emphatically contradicts the US government's claims that
> plant-derived fuels contribute less than 3%% to food-price rises. It
> will add to pressure on governments in Washington and across Europe,
> which have turned to plant-derived fuels to reduce emissions of
> greenhouse gases and reduce their dependence on imported oil..."
>
> "...It will also put pressure on the British government, which is due
> to release its own report on the impact of biofuels, the Gallagher ...
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Mike P
Date: Jul 4, 2008 04:23

Doug wrote:
> Told you so! When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going to do
> something about the government compelling you to use harmful biofuels?
>
> "Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75%% - far more than
> previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report
> obtained by the Guardian.
>
> The damning unpublished assessment is based on the most detailed
> analysis of the crisis so far, carried out by an internationally-
> respected economist at global financial body.
>
> The figure emphatically contradicts the US government's claims that
> plant-derived fuels contribute less than 3%% to food-price rises. It
> will add to pressure on governments in Washington and across Europe,
> which have turned to plant-derived fuels to reduce emissions of
> greenhouse gases and reduce their dependence on imported oil..."
>
> "...It will also put pressure on the British government, which is due
> to release its own report on the impact of biofuels, the Gallagher ...
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Date: Jul 4, 2008 04:32

Doug riseup.net> wrote:
> "Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75%% - far more than
> previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report
> obtained by the Guardian.

Can you explain why famers are being told that European grain stores
that should be empty at this time of year are half full? If there's this
huge demand for corn at any price, why is it sitting there in storage
without a buyer?
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Mike P
Date: Jul 4, 2008 04:48

Steve Firth wrote:
> Doug riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> "Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75%% - far more than
>> previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report
>> obtained by the Guardian.
>
> Can you explain why famers are being told that European grain stores
> that should be empty at this time of year are half full? If there's
> this huge demand for corn at any price, why is it sitting there in
> storage without a buyer?

It seems to me that anything you can use as a fuel is rocketing in price.
Mainly because of cretins like Doug and those that believe/agree with what
he says, along with the politicians desperate for the "green" vote, when in
fact there is not really that much real evidence of any of their theories.

The motorist is to blame, obviously... ;-)

Mike P
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Doug
Date: Jul 5, 2008 00:00

On 4 Jul, 08:48, "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>> Told you so! When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going to do
>> something about the government compelling you to use harmful biofuels?
>
> The "government" doesn't force any company to produce bio-fuels so what is
> the point in getting on their backs?

Correct me if I am wrong, I am not a motorist, but isn't ethanol now
added to petrol and any motorist buying petrol is compelled to use it?
If so, why aren't motorists here protesting about this compulsory
greenwash?

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Motorists contribute to global starvation, environmental destruction
and drink driving by using ethanol.
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Jul 5, 2008 00:18

Doug wrote:
> On 4 Jul, 08:48, "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> Told you so! When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going to
>>> do something about the government compelling you to use harmful
>>> biofuels?
>>
>> The "government" doesn't force any company to produce bio-fuels so
>> what is the point in getting on their backs?
>
> Correct me if I am wrong,

As you so frequently are.
> I am not a motorist, but isn't ethanol now
> added to petrol and any motorist buying petrol is compelled to use it?

Some for of bio-fuel is added to most fuel AIUI.
> If so, why aren't motorists here protesting about this compulsory
> greenwash?

I asked what would be the point of getting on the government's case about
it. Answer the question please.
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Doug
Date: Jul 5, 2008 00:42

On 5 Jul, 08:18, "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>> On 4 Jul, 08:48, "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Doug wrote:
>>>> Told you so! When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going to
>>>> do something about the government compelling you to use harmful
>>>> biofuels?
>
>>> The "government" doesn't force any company to produce bio-fuels so
>>> what is the point in getting on their backs?
>
>> Correct me if I am wrong,
>
> As you so frequently are.
>
>> I am not a motorist, but isn't ethanol now
>> added to petrol and any motorist buying petrol is compelled to use it?
>
> Some for of bio-fuel is added to most fuel AIUI.
> ...
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Re: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Jul 5, 2008 00:48

Doug wrote:
> On 5 Jul, 08:18, "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 4 Jul, 08:48, "Brimstone" yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>> Told you so! When are you gutless, anti-protest motorists going
>>>>> to do something about the government compelling you to use harmful
>>>>> biofuels?
>>
>>>> The "government" doesn't force any company to produce bio-fuels so
>>>> what is the point in getting on their backs?
>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong,
>>
>> As you so frequently are.
>>
>>> I am not a motorist, but isn't ethanol now
>>> added to petrol and any motorist buying petrol is compelled to use
>>> it?
>> ...
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