Evening Standard today has the results of a survey by the Institute of
Advanced Motorists:-

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23484300-details/Charge+of+the+red...

"At Piccadilly Circus 101 roadusers jumped red lights in three hours,
including 43 cyclists, 27 car drivers, eight motorcyclists, one lorry
driver and 22 vans".

Apparently even cars do it, but they have an acceptable reason:-

"The survey was carried out by the Institute of Advanced Motorists'
head of road safety Kevin Delaney, who said: "We are seeing the growth
of motorised anarchy. Drivers are realising that shorter green phases
increase the length of their queue at traffic lights and are more
willing to gamble on the first few seconds of the red light.""

Well, of course. No harm in that. Gambling on the first few seconds of
the lights, not on people's lives. Sporting chaps. Everybody loves a
chancer. Salt of the earth. But those dangerous cyclists, they just
bad:-

""But as far as cyclists in central London are concerned, the laws of
the road do not apply to them."

"Squashme" gmail.com> wrote in message
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What would be interesting would be the *timing* of the red-light jumping -
how long after the lights had turned red or how long before they turned
green the various types of road users went through the...

Mortimer wrote:

Squashme gmail.com> wrote:

so the survey endorses everything that has been said here:

* More cyclists jump red lights than car drivers.
* Cyclists simply ignore red lights.
* Drivers take a chance in the first few seconds as the lights change.

Excellent piece of research showing what stupid cunts cyclists are.

Steve Firth wrote:

Has anyone ever seen a cyclist jump a car driver?

On 13 May, 23:25, %%ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

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