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Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: Lord Turkey Cough
Date: Mar 31, 2008 10:58

Is it right that tax payers money be used to provide subsidised housing
for the lackeys who service the household needs of the toffs?

These toffs have got enough dosh to push up house prices so high
that they price the ordinary people out of the area.

If they want a local bunch of lackeys to services their needs then they
can just jolly well pay them a lot extra so that they can afford to live
locally or commute further.

I don't see why the tax payer should be subsidising the household
services of the upper crust.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3649184.ece
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: JNugent
Date: Mar 31, 2008 15:23

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> Is it right that tax payers money be used to provide subsidised housing
> for the lackeys who service the household needs of the toffs?
> These toffs have got enough dosh to push up house prices so high
> that they price the ordinary people out of the area.
> If they want a local bunch of lackeys to services their needs then they
> can just jolly well pay them a lot extra so that they can afford to live
> locally or commute further.
> I don't see why the tax payer should be subsidising the household
> services of the upper crust.

Wonderful, foot-in-mouth, bullet-in-own-foot, stuff.

It will galvanise and focus anti-Labour sentiment in the affected market
towns and see off every Labour MP in the immediate area at the next
election.
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: Lord Turkey Cough
Date: Mar 31, 2008 16:32

"JNugent" NPPTG.com> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>> Is it right that tax payers money be used to provide subsidised housing
>> for the lackeys who service the household needs of the toffs?
>
>> These toffs have got enough dosh to push up house prices so high
>> that they price the ordinary people out of the area.
>
>> If they want a local bunch of lackeys to services their needs then they
>> can just jolly well pay them a lot extra so that they can afford to live
>> locally or commute further.
>
>> I don't see why the tax payer should be subsidising the household
>> services of the upper crust.
>
>
> Wonderful, foot-in-mouth, bullet-in-own-foot, stuff. ...
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: Martin
Date: Apr 1, 2008 01:41

I have seen at first hand the problem

I have relatives living in a medium sized Cornish village.

Council houses all sold off. Private estates full of out of area retired
wrinklies, a few locals holding on to their council houses or private houses
bought years ago.

Large number of young people unable to afford a house.

Planning permission being blocked for houses for these people.

My cousin and his wife are currently living in a rented appartment just
behind a garage, while waiting for planning permission.

Latest threat is allow the houses or pig sties will be built, as it is owned
by the farm he works on, and is no use for crops.

The people trying to stop the development are all retired non locals
People forget that farmers have been priced out of the areas they need to
work in.
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: JNugent
Date: Apr 1, 2008 08:43

Martin wrote:
> I have seen at first hand the problem
> I have relatives living in a medium sized Cornish village.
> Council houses all sold off. Private estates full of out of area retired
> wrinklies, a few locals holding on to their council houses or private houses
> bought years ago.
> Large number of young people unable to afford a house.

That happens anywhere and everywhere. It's part of the problem of being
young - having no money and not having been earning long enough to save
it up. It is partially solved by waiting until one's earnings and
savings rates have improved (remember "saving up"?) and partially by
inheritance.
> Planning permission being blocked for houses for these people.

Not *just* for those people - for *anyone*. And that is in order to
preserve visual amenity and the character of the built environment and
not to overburden the local infrastructure. We don't have planning
policies for just no reason.
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: JNugent
Date: Apr 1, 2008 08:44

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
> "JNugent" NPPTG.com> wrote:
>> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>>> Is it right that tax payers money be used to provide subsidised housing
>>> for the lackeys who service the household needs of the toffs?
>>> These toffs have got enough dosh to push up house prices so high
>>> that they price the ordinary people out of the area.
>>> If they want a local bunch of lackeys to services their needs then they
>>> can just jolly well pay them a lot extra so that they can afford to live
>>> locally or commute further.
>>> I don't see why the tax payer should be subsidising the household
>>> services of the upper crust.
>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3649184.ece
>> Wonderful, foot-in-mouth, bullet-in-own-foot, stuff.
>> It will galvanise and focus anti-Labour sentiment in the affected market
>> towns and see off every Labour MP in the immediate area at the next
>> election.
> Why? Do you think the traditionally less wealth Labour supporters
> wish to subsidise the services of the fabulously rich?
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: Lord Turkey Cough
Date: Apr 1, 2008 09:38

"JNugent" NPPTG.com> wrote in message
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> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>> "JNugent" NPPTG.com> wrote:
>>> Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
>
>>>> Is it right that tax payers money be used to provide subsidised housing
>>>> for the lackeys who service the household needs of the toffs?
>>>> These toffs have got enough dosh to push up house prices so high
>>>> that they price the ordinary people out of the area.
>>>> If they want a local bunch of lackeys to services their needs then they
>>>> can just jolly well pay them a lot extra so that they can afford to
>>>> live
>>>> locally or commute further.
>>>> I don't see why the tax payer should be subsidising the household
>>>> services of the upper crust.
>>>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3649184.ece
>
>>> Wonderful, foot-in-mouth, bullet-in-own-foot, stuff. ...
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: ®i©ardo
Date: Apr 1, 2008 09:43

JNugent wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>
>> I have seen at first hand the problem
>> I have relatives living in a medium sized Cornish village.
>> Council houses all sold off. Private estates full of out of area
>> retired wrinklies, a few locals holding on to their council houses or
>> private houses bought years ago.
>> Large number of young people unable to afford a house.
>
> That happens anywhere and everywhere. It's part of the problem of being
> young - having no money and not having been earning long enough to save
> it up. It is partially solved by waiting until one's earnings and
> savings rates have improved (remember "saving up"?) and partially by
> inheritance.
>
>> Planning permission being blocked for houses for these people.
>
> Not *just* for those people - for *anyone*. And that is in order to
> preserve visual amenity and the character of the built environment and ...
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: Brimstone
Date: Apr 1, 2008 09:46

JNugent wrote:
> Martin wrote:
>> The people trying to stop the development are all retired non locals
>> People forget that farmers have been priced out of the areas they
>> need to work in.
>
> "Retired non-locals"... IOW, people who understand why we have
> planning rules (as we all should).

IOW people who formerly lived in other places whilst growing up and working
and are now retired and used their accumulated funds to buy property in a
location remote from their former home at above local affordable prices.
whilst living in those other places they developed an idealised view of what
"the country" should be like and now seek to impose that view on people who
have lived and worked in the area for several generations, possibly for
hundreds even thousands of years.

Why should the people with money with origins in a different part of the
country be the ones to dictate what happens and how others should live their
lives in some small rural community?
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Re: Providing subsidised housing for the lackeys of the Toffs         


Author: JNugent
Date: Apr 1, 2008 09:50

®i©ardo wrote:
> JNugent wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>> I have seen at first hand the problem
>>> I have relatives living in a medium sized Cornish village.
>>> Council houses all sold off. Private estates full of out of area
>>> retired wrinklies, a few locals holding on to their council houses or
>>> private houses bought years ago.
>>> Large number of young people unable to afford a house.
>> That happens anywhere and everywhere. It's part of the problem of
>> being young - having no money and not having been earning long enough
>> to save it up. It is partially solved by waiting until one's earnings
>> and savings rates have improved (remember "saving up"?) and partially
>> by inheritance.
>>> Planning permission being blocked for houses for these people.
>> Not *just* for those people - for *anyone*. And that is in order to
>> preserve visual amenity and the character of the built environment and
>> not to overburden the local infrastructure. We don't have planning
>> policies for just no reason.
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