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Group: uk.transport · Group Profile
Author: Tony Dragon
Date: Sep 9, 2008 23:58

Doug wrote:
> On 9 Sep, 17:55, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 9 Sep, 16:21, s...@ssrl.org.uk (Sam Nelson) wrote:
>>>> In article k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Doug riseup.net> writes:
>>>>> On 8 Sep, 21:10, " cupra" gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7598674.stm
>>>>>> He (the child) won't do that again in a hurry if he's gained any sense...
>>>>> Also, if you look closely you will see that the driver is going
>>>>> through on amber. In short the bus was travelling too fast.
>>>> The light doesn't change to amber until after the front of the bus passes
>>>> the Stop line.
>>> I have to disagree with you. It changes just before the bus is on the
>>> stop line.
>> You would disagree with anybody, or is it your eyesight that is bad?
>>
> The video is verifiable.

I agree, hence my point
>> Also, why is the bus intruding on the cycle lane?
>>
>> Given the road layout I'd like to know how he could do otherwise.
>>
> By observing the rules of the road.

See above
>>>> The kid leapt over a barrier deliberately placed to protect
>>>> pedestrians
>>> Or, deliberately placed to prevent pedestrians from using a public
>>> road, which has been allowed to become almost completely monopolised
>>> by motorised vehicles.
>> So you disagree with safety then, what a surprise.
>>
> I disagree with sacrificing people right to access public roads by
> fencing them in so that drivers can drive faster.

As usual you deliberately don't answer.
>>>> using a perfectly well-placed light-controlled crossing.
>>>> That's the main road to Edinburgh he's just jumped out into without paying
>>>> a blind bit of attention. You'll note from the video clip that there are
>>>> several other idiots hanging around the wrong side of the barrier, in the
>>>> `cycle lane'. Where they are, they'd be causing obstruction to cyclists.
>>>> Well, unless the cyclists are on the pavement, I guess.
>>> You have a point about obstructing cyclists but so was the bus with
>>> its wheels over the white line.
>> Imagine how many people would be all over the road without the barriers.
>>
> And ho much slower and more safely drivers would then have to drive.

Sacrifice safety to achieve your aims , now there is a suprise.
>> Well as usual you do not see what is in front of you, safety measures
>> are something you disapprove of, and unless I have missed it you have
>> not commented about the child or the bus driver.
>> So nothing new then.
>>
> An effective safety measure you obviously disagree with is lower speed
> limits, particularly outside schools.

Only obvious to you.
>
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