On 9 Sep, 17:55, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>> On 9 Sep, 16:21, s...@
ssrl.org.uk (Sam Nelson) wrote:
>>> In article k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
>>> Â Doug riseup.net> writes:
>>>> On 8 Sep, 21:10, " Â cupra" gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Also, if you look closely you will see that the driver is going
>>>> through on amber. In short the bus was travelling too fast.
>>> The light doesn't change to amber until after the front of the bus passes
>>> the Stop line.
>
>> I have to disagree with you. It changes just before the bus is on the
>> stop line.
>
> You would disagree with anybody, or is it your eyesight that is bad?
>
The video is verifiable.
>
> Also, why is the bus intruding on the cycle lane?
>
> Given the road layout I'd like to know how he could do otherwise.
>
By observing the rules of the road.
>
>>> Â The kid leapt over a barrier deliberately placed to protect
>>> pedestrians
>
>> Or, deliberately placed to prevent pedestrians from using a public
>> road, which has been allowed to become almost completely monopolised
>> by motorised vehicles.
>
> So you disagree with safety then, what a surprise.
>
I disagree with sacrificing people right to access public roads by
fencing them in so that drivers can drive faster.
>
>>> using a perfectly well-placed light-controlled crossing.
>>> That's the main road to Edinburgh he's just jumped out into without paying
>>> a blind bit of attention. Â You'll note from the video clip that there are
>>> several other idiots hanging around the wrong side of the barrier, in the
>>> `cycle lane'. Â Where they are, they'd be causing obstruction to cyclists.
>>> Well, unless the cyclists are on the pavement, I guess.
>
>> You have a point about obstructing cyclists but so was the bus with
>> its wheels over the white line.
>
> Imagine how many people would be all over the road without the barriers.
>
And ho much slower and more safely drivers would then have to drive.
>
> Well as usual you do not see what is in front of you, safety measures
> are something you disapprove of, and unless I have missed it you have
> not commented about the child or the bus driver.
> So nothing new then.
>
An effective safety measure you obviously disagree with is lower speed
limits, particularly outside schools.