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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Aug 13, 2008 12:36
I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ non-EU
citizens unless they spoke English. How come every single petrol station in
London uses Asian staff at night who can't understand "Yorkie"? Is every
single petrol chain breaking the law, and if so, why?
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Author: Paul WeaverPaul Weaver Date: Aug 13, 2008 13:04
On 13 Aug, 20:36, "John Rowland"
journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ non-EU
> citizens unless they spoke English.
Cite? There's a law saying that you can only employ people with a
valid work permit
> How come every single petrol station in
> London uses Asian staff at night who can't understand "Yorkie"? Is every
They don't
> single petrol chain breaking the law, and if so, why?
They arent
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Author: Alex HeneyAlex Heney Date: Aug 13, 2008 14:09
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0100, "John Rowland"
journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ non-EU
>citizens unless they spoke English.
You heard wrong.
Wishful thinking on your part, I think (from the tone of the rest of
your post).
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Don't force it, use a bigger hammer.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
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Author: SmolleySmolley Date: Aug 13, 2008 14:21
"Alex Heney" privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0100, "John Rowland"
> journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>>
>>I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ non-EU
>>citizens unless they spoke English.
>
> You heard wrong.
>
> Wishful thinking on your part, I think (from the tone of the rest of
> your post).
> --
> Alex Heney, Global Villager
> Don't force it, use a bigger hammer.
> To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Aug 13, 2008 14:39
Alex Heney wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0100, "John Rowland"
> journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>> I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ non-EU
>> citizens unless they spoke English.
>
> You heard wrong.
Were they considering such a law? I am sure I heard something like that.
> Wishful thinking on your part, I think (from the tone of the rest of
> your post).
I wasn't aware that the rest of my post had a tone. Oh, I get it, you're
shouting "RASCIST!"... because when an entire sector of the economy refuses
to employ anyone who hasn't been born and educated in South Asia, that's
called "equality"... and wondering about the behaviour of these companies is
called "racism". You are Harriett Harman AICMFP.
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Author: Brian RobertsonBrian Robertson Date: Aug 13, 2008 15:05
"John Rowland" journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Alex Heney wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0100, "John Rowland"
>> journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ non-EU
>>> citizens unless they spoke English.
>>
>> You heard wrong.
>
> Were they considering such a law? I am sure I heard something like that.
>
>> Wishful thinking on your part, I think (from the tone of the rest of
>> your post).
>
> I wasn't aware that the rest of my post had a tone. Oh, I get it, you're
> shouting "RASCIST!"... because when an entire sector of the economy
> refuses to employ anyone who hasn't been born and educated in South Asia,
> that's called "equality"... and wondering about the behaviour of these ...
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Author: Alex HeneyAlex Heney Date: Aug 13, 2008 15:40
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:02 +0100, "John Rowland"
journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Alex Heney wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0100, "John Rowland"
>> journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ non-EU
>>> citizens unless they spoke English.
>>
>> You heard wrong.
>
>Were they considering such a law? I am sure I heard something like that.
If so, it would have been a very brie "consideration" that would have
been unlikely ever to get outside the meting where it was considered.
As Smolley points out, it would undoubtedly lead to racial
discrimination, and so could not be a valid law under et HRA.
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Author: Alex HeneyAlex Heney Date: Aug 13, 2008 15:41
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:05:24 +0100, "Brian Robertson"
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>"John Rowland" journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Alex Heney wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0100, "John Rowland"
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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Aug 13, 2008 16:05
Alex Heney wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:39:02 +0100, "John Rowland"
> journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Alex Heney wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0100, "John Rowland"
>>> journeyflow.spamspam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I heard that a new law was passed making it illegal to employ
>>>> non-EU citizens unless they spoke English.
>>>
>>> You heard wrong.
>>
>> Were they considering such a law? I am sure I heard something like
>> that.
>
> If so, it would have been a very brie "consideration" that would have
> been unlikely ever to get outside the meting where it was considered.
>
> As Smolley points out, it would undoubtedly lead to racial ...
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Author: John RowlandJohn Rowland Date: Aug 13, 2008 16:05
Smolley wrote:
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> Once the employer has identified the risk and considered reasonable
> means of reducing
> it, if there is still a real health and safety risk, then it may be
> acceptable to refuse to
> employ Non-English speaking personnel for particular jobs. Any
> blanket ban on Non-
> English speaking employees is, however, still likely to be in breach
> of current race
> regulations legislation.
>
> This is from the Home Builders Safety Guide, but a similar policy in
> Petrol Stations will exist.
Thanks.
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