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Author: JonathanJonathan Date: Jul 18, 2008 18:01
Public transport has always been awful; and over the past couple of years
I've noticed that more and more often I'm squashed inside a bus or train,
with hardly enough room to breathe, because the company decided to cancel
earlier buses or trains without notice, and without making any alternative
arrangements.
Because I believe that this gross-overcrowding is a serious risk to public
health and safety, I've created a petition at
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/sardines/ asking for action to be taken to stop
this gross-overcrowding.
Therefore, if anyone else here shares my concerns, please co-sign the
petition, and if possible, please pass the message along to a few friends.
Jonathan
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Author: DougDoug Date: Jul 19, 2008 07:05
Oh, so you want a law that mandates the number of people allowed on a
bus/train? If capacity is reduced in this way, what happens to the
passengers who can't get on and are forced to stay behind? Do you
expect them to get to work late every day? Or to travel at 5am? What
about passengers on commuter lines in London, where trains are already
full by the time they get to stations nearer the centre? According to
your law, passengers who live in more central suburbs would not be
allowed on ANY centre-bound train during rush hour.
Who is going to pay for the security staff/ barriers needed at every
train station/bus stop to hold back angry commuters? Who is going to
pay for the lost revenue due to fewer passengers?
How does this law encourage transport companies to increase capacity?
I don't like this petition because it's reactionary and a regulation
like this one would do nothing to solve the capacityshortage that is
causing overcrowding in the first place.
A petition to increase investment in public transport would be a
better idea. I would sign that.
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Author: nullynully Date: Jul 19, 2008 07:41
> Oh, so you want a law that mandates the number of people allowed on a
> bus/train? If capacity is reduced in this way, what happens to the
> passengers who can't get on and are forced to stay behind? Do you
> expect them to get to work late every day? Or to travel at 5am? What
> about passengers on commuter lines in London, where trains are already
> full by the time they get to stations nearer the centre? According to
> your law, passengers who live in more central suburbs would not be
> allowed on ANY centre-bound train during rush hour.
>
> Who is going to pay for the security staff/ barriers needed at every
> train station/bus stop to hold back angry commuters? Who is going to
> pay for the lost revenue due to fewer passengers?
>
> How does this law encourage transport companies to increase capacity?
>
> I don't like this petition because it's reactionary and a regulation
> like this one would do nothing to solve the capacityshortage that is
> causing overcrowding in the first place. ...
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Author: Derek GeldardDerek Geldard Date: Jul 19, 2008 07:41
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:05:15 -0700 (PDT), Doug
googlemail.com> wrote:
>Oh, so you want a law that mandates the number of people allowed on a
>bus/train? If capacity is reduced in this way, what happens to the
>passengers who can't get on and are forced to stay behind? Do you
>expect them to get to work late every day? Or to travel at 5am?
That is precisely what our headmaster said Ca. 1962 in assembly when
kids started turning up late at school saying their bus was full.
> What
>about passengers on commuter lines in London, where trains are already
>full by the time they get to stations nearer the centre? According to
>your law, passengers who live in more central suburbs would not be
>allowed on ANY centre-bound train during rush hour.
Yes you're right, PT sucks donkey dick.
>
>Who is going to pay for the security staff/ barriers needed at every
>train station/bus stop to hold back angry commuters? Who is going to
>pay for the lost revenue due to fewer passengers?
Motorists usually.
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Author: nullynully Date: Jul 19, 2008 08:24
"Derek Geldard" miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9ou3849eigspfhtjsrkudpm9icsbmh2hlp@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:05:15 -0700 (PDT), Doug
> googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>Oh, so you want a law that mandates the number of people allowed on a
>>bus/train? If capacity is reduced in this way, what happens to the
>>passengers who can't get on and are forced to stay behind? Do you
>>expect them to get to work late every day? Or to travel at 5am?
>
> That is precisely what our headmaster said Ca. 1962 in assembly when
> kids started turning up late at school saying their bus was full.
>
>> What
>>about passengers on commuter lines in London, where trains are already
>>full by the time they get to stations nearer the centre? According to
>>your law, passengers who live in more central suburbs would not be
>>allowed on ANY centre-bound train during rush hour.
>
> Yes you're right, PT sucks donkey dick. ...
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Author: ConorConor Date: Jul 19, 2008 16:26
> Oh, so you want a law that mandates the number of people allowed on a
> bus/train? If capacity is reduced in this way, what happens to the
> passengers who can't get on and are forced to stay behind? Do you
> expect them to get to work late every day? Or to travel at 5am? What
> about passengers on commuter lines in London, where trains are already
> full by the time they get to stations nearer the centre? According to
> your law, passengers who live in more central suburbs would not be
> allowed on ANY centre-bound train during rush hour.
>
So Doug is in afavour of allowing public transport to operate
dangerously overloaded?
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Author: John WrightJohn Wright Date: Jul 19, 2008 16:42
Conor wrote:
>> Oh, so you want a law that mandates the number of people allowed on a
>> bus/train? If capacity is reduced in this way, what happens to the
>> passengers who can't get on and are forced to stay behind? Do you
>> expect them to get to work late every day? Or to travel at 5am? What
>> about passengers on commuter lines in London, where trains are already
>> full by the time they get to stations nearer the centre? According to
>> your law, passengers who live in more central suburbs would not be
>> allowed on ANY centre-bound train during rush hour.
>>
> So Doug is in afavour of allowing public transport to operate
> dangerously overloaded?
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