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Author: francis
Date: Feb 18, 2008 07:21

From the Daily Express today

NEW evidence has cast doubt on claims that the world’s ice-caps are
melting, it emerged last night.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/35266/Global-warming-It-s-the-coldest-winter...

Is it true or is it greenwash, how can us poor uninformed tell?

Over to you Doug (and Toomy)

Francis
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Re: OT Global warming (not)         


Author: Doug
Date: Feb 18, 2008 07:42

On 18 Feb, 15:21, francis yahoo.com> wrote:
> From the Daily Express today
>
> NEW evidence has cast doubt on claims that the world's ice-caps are
> melting, it emerged last night.
>
> http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/35266/Global-warming-It-s-the-col...
>
> Is it true or is it greenwash, how can us poor uninformed tell?
>
> Over to you Doug (and Toomy)
>
This would appear to be an about face on the part of the NOAA since
the following appears on their website:

"Is the climate warming?
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Author: Dogpoop
Date: Feb 18, 2008 08:00

francis typed:
> From the Daily Express today
>
> NEW evidence has cast doubt on claims that the world
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Re: OT Global warming (not)         


Author: PeterT
Date: Feb 18, 2008 09:07

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:42:10 -0800 (PST), Doug riseup.net>
wrote:
>On 18 Feb, 15:21, francis yahoo.com> wrote:
>> From the Daily Express today
>>
>> NEW evidence has cast doubt on claims that the world's ice-caps are
>> melting, it emerged last night...
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Date: Feb 18, 2008 10:32

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:cd6a2f86-fb92-4a5e-b2b9-ed07794ed0c4@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
...
> This would appear to be an about face on the part of the NOAA ...

Any real scientists will be willing to accept convincing new data and change
their views accordingly.

....
> There is a clue here in that climate change involves cooling in some
> areas but warming outweighs this in other areas, thus giving a GLOBAL
> warming average. It will be interesting to see what other
> organisations make of this..

Had you actually read the IPCC report, you would already have known that
there were regional variations. What is important about the new data is that
it shows that areas that were predicted to warm are actually exhibiting
significantly lower temperatures than expected.

Colin Bignell
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Date: Feb 18, 2008 12:41

"francis" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:704594ec-4d0e-47ea-ac5f-6fa7fa2703aa@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> From the Daily Express today
>
> NEW evidence has cast doubt on claims that the world
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Author: Doug
Date: Feb 19, 2008 00:30

On 18 Feb, 18:32, "nightjar" .me.uk>
wrote:
> "Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
>
> news:cd6a2f86-fb92-4a5e-b2b9-ed07794ed0c4@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> ...
>
>> This would appear to be an about face on the part of the NOAA ...
>
> Any real scientists will be willing to accept convincing new data and change
> their views accordingly.
>
> ....
>
>> There is a clue here in that climate change involves cooling in some
>> areas but warming outweighs this in other areas, thus giving a GLOBAL
>> warming average. It will be interesting to see what other
>> organisations make of this..
>
> Had you actually read the IPCC report, you would already have known that ...
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Date: Feb 19, 2008 01:18

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:94aebaea-e3c3-4496-bf93-5f0fcaf957ff@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On 18 Feb, 18:32, "nightjar" .me.uk>
> wrote:
>> "Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cd6a2f86-fb92-4a5e-b2b9-ed07794ed0c4@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> ...
>>
>>> This would appear to be an about face on the part of the NOAA ...
>>
>> Any real scientists will be willing to accept convincing new data and
>> change
>> their views accordingly.
>>
>> ....
>>
>>> There is a clue here in that climate change involves cooling in some
>>> areas but warming outweighs this in other areas, thus giving a GLOBAL
>>> warming average. It will be interesting to see what other ...
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Author: Conor
Date: Feb 19, 2008 02:02

In article <94aebaea-e3c3-4496-bf93-
5f0fcaf957ff@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> So? It is just another regional variation then, probably accompanied
> by somewhere else getting warmer than expected.
>
But the ecoloonies were telling us the ice caps would have melted
completely in a few years and we'd all be drowning bevcause of the
resulting rise in sea level.

Surely, you're not now admitting that most of what they spout about CC
and its effects is actually bollocks?

--
Conor

As a Brit I'd like to thank the Americans for their help in the war
against terror because if they'd not funded the IRA for 30 years, we
wouldn't know how to deal with terrorists.
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Author: Dogpoop
Date: Feb 19, 2008 02:32

Huge typed:
> On 2008-02-19, nightjar wrote:
>>
>> "Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
>> news:94aebaea-e3c3-4496-bf93-5f0fcaf957ff@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>> So? It is just another regional variation then, probably accompanied
>>> by somewhere else getting warmer than expected.
>>>
>>
>> As I said, you should have read the IPCC report, then you would
>> understand that this is a significant departure from the underlying
>> assumptions upon which the predictions in the report were based.
>> Although not all areas were warming at the same rate, there was a
>> basic expectation that the areas that had exhibited most warming in
>> the past would be the areas that showed most warming in the future.
>> If that proves not to be the case, as it now appears, the levels of
>> uncertainty in the predictions rise significantly.
> ...
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