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Author: AlasdairAlasdair Date: Jul 26, 2007 13:40
From today's Daily Telegraph:
Motorists in their millions to face fines
By David Millward
Last Updated: 2:25am BST 26/07/2007
Millions more motorists could receive parking fines after the
Government said that the tickets will no longer have to be fixed to
the windscreen.
New regulations will allow fines to be enforced when a motorist has
driven away or "used violence" to prevent a ticket being issued.
London parking tickets will still have to be either
handed to the driver or fixed to the windscreen
The new regulations are part of a shake-up that will include two-tier
parking fines with those guilty of more serious transgressions, such
as parking in a disabled bay or on double yellow lines, facing higher
penalties.
The changes are designed to plug a loophole identified by the National
Parking Adjudication Service, which handles motorists' appeals outside
London.
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Author: GinoGino Date: Jul 26, 2007 13:55
Fuck the politics, arm the traffic wardens with verifiable cameras. Not
rocket science.
Take a photo and move onto the next one. The parking offender should then
get a fine through the post.
"Alasdair" bobaxter.coo.uk> wrote in message
news:f21ia3dtnh609eb1q8ppm1urartc036fhf@4ax.com...> From today's Daily Telegraph:
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> Motorists in their millions to face fines
> By David Millward...
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Date: Jul 26, 2007 13:58
Gino wrote:
> Fuck the politics, arm the traffic wardens with verifiable cameras. Not
> rocket science.
>
> Take a photo and move onto the next one. The parking offender should
> then get a fine through the post.
>
Here, here!
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Author: Mike_BMike_B Date: Jul 26, 2007 14:11
In message 4ax.com>, Alasdair
bobaxter.coo.uk> writes
>The Department for Transport said the evidence of a parking attendant
>would be regarded as sufficient and the onus would be on the motorist
>to prove that he or she was not parked illegally.
That's the craziest bit of all. A single traffic warden's word is to be
taken as positive evidence requiring a person to prove a negative.
Ludicrous.
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Author: AlasdairAlasdair Date: Jul 26, 2007 14:11
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:55:22 +0100, "Gino" privacy.com> wrote:
>Fuck the politics, arm the traffic wardens with verifiable cameras. Not
>rocket science.
>
>Take a photo and move onto the next one. The parking offender should then
>get a fine through the post.
If I read the new proposals correctly, traffic wardens who don't reach
their targets can just enter a list of registration numbers of cars
legally parked and the poor punters will get unappealable fines.
Motorists will now have to take pix every time they park legally.
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Alasdair.
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Author: GinoGino Date: Jul 26, 2007 14:36
That wasn't stated in the original post, however my reply still stands. Arm
the traffic wardens with verifiable cameras.
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Author: johannesjohannes Date: Jul 26, 2007 14:45
Gino wrote:
>
> That wasn't stated in the original post, however my reply still stands. Arm
> the traffic wardens with verifiable cameras.
I remember there was a infamous case a couple of years ago where a traffic
warden had photographed a no parking sign as evidence; it transpired that
the sign was put up the day after the supposed parking violation. Instead
of being sacked and punished for fraud, the said traffic warden was merely
reprimanded.
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Author: BlockheadsBlockheads Date: Jul 26, 2007 15:01
Mike_B wrote:
> In message 4ax.com>, Alasdair
> bobaxter.coo.uk> writes
> >> The Department for Transport said the evidence of a parking attendant
>> would be regarded as sufficient and the onus would be on the motorist
>> to prove that he or she was not parked illegally.
>
> That's the craziest bit of all. A single traffic warden's word is to be
> taken as positive evidence requiring a person to prove a negative.
> Ludicrous.
Traffic wardens are an arm of the police and we all know that the
police never tell lies don't we?
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Author: nospamnospam Date: Jul 26, 2007 15:01
Mike_B localhosts.net> wrote:
>In message 4ax.com>, Alasdair
>bobaxter.coo.uk> writes
>>>The Department for Transport said the evidence of a parking attendant
>>would be regarded as sufficient and the onus would be on the motorist
>>to prove that he or she was not parked illegally.
>
>That's the craziest bit of all. A single traffic warden's word is to be
>taken as positive evidence requiring a person to prove a negative.
>Ludicrous.
Just another step towards a summary guilty till proven innocent legal
system.
Besides motorists (and smokers) deserve it.....
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Author: Michael SwiftMichael Swift Date: Jul 26, 2007 15:18
In article localhosts.net>, Mike_B
localhosts.net> writes>>The Department for Transport said the evidence of a parking attendant
>>would be regarded as sufficient and the onus would be on the motorist
>>to prove that he or she was not parked illegally.
>
>That's the craziest bit of all. A single traffic warden's word is to be
>taken as positive evidence requiring a person to prove a negative.
>Ludicrous.
I'm not a Legal Eagle but isn't that the French, aka European Code
Napoleon as opposed to the alleged British 'Innocent unto proven
guilty'.
Mike
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Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
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