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Author: cupracupra Date: Mar 26, 2008 02:54
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/25/nbus125.xml
"Bus passengers who travel along a route of more than 30 miles must get off
the vehicle midway through their journey to comply with new EU laws.
The law has been described as a "farce"
The Brussels ruling dictates that drivers must pull over and let everyone
off their bus after 30 miles, to ensure they do not spend too long behind
the wheel. "
Daft isn't the word.....
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Mar 26, 2008 03:31
cupra wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/25/nbus125.xml
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> "Bus passengers who travel along a route of more than 30 miles must
> get off the vehicle midway through their journey to comply with new
> EU laws.
> The law has been described as a "farce"
>
> The Brussels ruling dictates that drivers must pull over and let
> everyone off their bus after 30 miles, to ensure they do not spend
> too long behind the wheel. "
>
>
> Daft isn't the word.....
Quite.
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Author: Mike BarnesMike Barnes Date: Mar 26, 2008 03:51
In uk.transport, cupra wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/25/nbus125.xml
>
>"Bus passengers who travel along a route of more than 30 miles must get off
>the vehicle midway through their journey to comply with new EU laws.
>
>The law has been described as a "farce"
>
>The Brussels ruling dictates that drivers must pull over and let everyone
>off their bus after 30 miles, to ensure they do not spend too long behind
>the wheel. "
"Long-distance coach journeys are exempt from the law"
And pictured is a National Express coach to Dover, to which the law
presumably doesn't apply.
British journalism at its best. No mention of what the difference is
between a "bus" and a "long-distance coach", legally speaking.
--
Mike Barnes
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Author: David HansenDavid Hansen Date: Mar 26, 2008 04:35
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:54:25 -0000 someone who may be " cupra"
gmail.com> wrote this:-
From which there is a link to an example of public transport madness
< http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/839199/Comment-%%27I-refuse-to-be-fingerprinted%%27...>
On the bus story, it is not an example of public transport madness,
it is an example of legal madness. It would be an example of public
transport madness only if the operator had introduced such things by
themselves, as is the case in Heathrow.
There have been similar examples to do with fuel duty rebate, though
a way round this has been to insert suitable stops so that the bus
does not run for too long a distance between stops and thus lose the
rebate.
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Author: furnessvalefurnessvale Date: Mar 26, 2008 04:36
On 26 Mar, 10:51, Mike Barnes bluebottle.com> wrote:
> "Long-distance coach journeys are exempt from the law"
And there is the answer to the problem. Some coach companies have
been reclassifying their express routes as "Stage Carriage" so as to
benefit from fuel tax rebates not available to express services. Up
to now they have been safe in the knowledge that few passengers would
want to alight enroute so they could maintain their express timings.
The answer is in the coach companies own hands. Classify the routes
correctly, pay their taxes like the rest of have to do, and stop
trying to cut corners.
George
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Mar 26, 2008 04:37
furnessvale wrote:
> On 26 Mar, 10:51, Mike Barnes bluebottle.com> wrote:
>>> "Long-distance coach journeys are exempt from the law"
>
> And there is the answer to the problem. Some coach companies have
> been reclassifying their express routes as "Stage Carriage" so as to
> benefit from fuel tax rebates not available to express services. Up
> to now they have been safe in the knowledge that few passengers would
> want to alight enroute so they could maintain their express timings.
>
> The answer is in the coach companies own hands. Classify the routes
> correctly, pay their taxes like the rest of have to do, and stop
> trying to cut corners.
>
Are you trying to bring down the whole of British society?
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Author: cupracupra Date: Mar 26, 2008 04:51
David Hansen wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:54:25 -0000 someone who may be " cupra"
> gmail.com> wrote this:-
>>
> From which there is a link to an example of public transport madness
> < http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/839199/Comment-%%27I-refuse-to-be-fingerprinted%%27...>
>
> On the bus story, it is not an example of public transport madness,
> it is an example of legal madness. It would be an example of public
> transport madness only if the operator had introduced such things by
> themselves, as is the case in Heathrow.
>
> There have been similar examples to do with fuel duty rebate, though
> a way round this has been to insert suitable stops so that the bus
> does not run for too long...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Mar 26, 2008 05:06
cupra wrote:
> David Hansen wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:54:25 -0000 someone who may be " cupra"
>> gmail.com> wrote this:-
>>>>
>> From which there is a link to an example of public transport madness
>> < http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/839199/Comment-%%27I-refuse-to-be-fingerprinted%%27...>
>>
>> On the bus story, it is not an example of public transport madness,
>> it is an example of legal madness. It would be an example of public
>> transport madness only if the operator had introduced such things by
>> themselves, as is the case in Heathrow.
>>
>> There have been similar examples to do with fuel duty rebate, though
>> a way round this has been to insert suitable stops so that the bus
>> does not run for too long a distance between stops and thus lose the
>> rebate. > ...
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Author: cupracupra Date: Mar 26, 2008 05:18
Brimstone wrote:
> cupra wrote:
>> David Hansen wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:54:25 -0000 someone who may be " cupra"
>>> gmail.com> wrote this:-
>>>>>>
>>> From which there is a link to an example of public transport madness
>>> < http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/839199/Comment-%%27I-refuse-to-be-fingerprinted%%27...>
>>>
>>> On the bus story, it is not an example of public transport madness,
>>> it is an example of legal madness. It would be an example of public
>>> transport madness only if the operator had introduced such things by
>>> themselves, as is the case in Heathrow.
>>>
>>> There have been similar examples to do with fuel duty rebate, though
>>> a way round this has been to insert suitable stops so that the bus
>>> does not run for too long a distance between stops and thus lose the
>>> rebate. ...
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Author: Paul StevensonPaul Stevenson Date: Mar 26, 2008 04:06
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> "Bus passengers who travel along a route of more than 30 miles must get
off
> the vehicle midway through their journey to comply with new EU laws.
Can anyone provide a URL where this law might be read?
Paul
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