http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6949861.stm

While I may have poked holes in Dougs black and white absolute
rantings there could be a nugget of truth in his general arguement.

Biofuels have good and bad points; given they've turned into a green
government fashion accessory thats likely to cause them to be rushed.
Which makes them more likely to be done badly.

Fod

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Reforestation releases methane a greenhouse gas approximately 20x more
effective than CO2, but you will get some of that from bio fuel production
plus the fact that since the 1970s most industrialised counties have been
burning more calories in farming than has been produced (now it's true you
use more of some of the plants when you make bio-ethanol and bio-derv). Still
even driving a petrol car produces less CO2 than walking. (The average car
produces 0.3kg per mile, the average walk 1.2kg and cycling is back at 0.3kg
the same as the car) " How to Live a Low-Carbon Life, Chris Goodall"

Depresion wrote:

'the equivalent of 3.6 kg of global warming gases', assuming you only
eat beef. Also assuming you need 180 kcal to walk a mile, which is
rather high.

http://www.lowcarbonlife.net/downloads/beef.pdf

"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote

So how much CO2 does driving to an airconditioned leisure centre to use a
bicycle that's bolted to the floor produce?

Looks like some rather silly assumptions being used here.

That's not what was said. A car doing 60mpg betters the per-seat
consumption of a High Speed train. The typical single occupant car has
quite some way to go before matching a crowded commuter train.

One department worries about landfill... another dreams up ways to tax CO2.
Don't you love joined up government?

"DavidR" 4bidden.org.uk> wrote in message
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Actually that's not what was said at all. If you are going to try to correct
someone then you may try to get your facts right rather then sticking your
head in a bucket of ignorance then drawing attention to it.

On 18 Aug, 09:04, Fod googlemail.com> wrote:

Admit it, despite your feeble excuses, you are now bound to agree with
me.

Aggrofuels are just another example of greenwash, with very few if any
good points. This has less to do with government and everything to do
with a bunch of bandwagon profiteers who are out to exploit the
unwary.

"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
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Doug wrote:

Doug wrote:

Doug wrote:

In no particular order: rose hip, blackcurrant, parsley, broccoli,
loganberry, Brussels sprouts, strawberries, cauliflower, raspberries,
redcurrant, spinach, green cabbage, potatoes, tomatoes, carrots, apples,
gooseberries...

Preserves thereof for when not in season.