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Author: DougDoug Date: Jul 7, 2007 02:11
"...But nonprofit groups warn that the benefits of biofuel production
- access to energy and new income - could be outweighed by rising food
prices and more competition for the same land.
Even small increases in food prices could harm populations living on
less than US$1 (75 euro cents) per day, International Food Policy
Research Institute director Joachim von Braun said.
A report this week from Organization for Economic Cooperation and
Development and the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization warned that
high prices for wheat and maize - blamed on increasing demand for
biofuels - could last through the decade..."
More:
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2742787.ece
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Author: Clive.Clive. Date: Jul 7, 2007 04:46
>Motorists contribute to global starvation, environmental destruction
>and drink driivng by using ethanol.
I use ethanol, it's a nice way to loosen up.
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Author: NotMeNotMe Date: Jul 7, 2007 15:17
On 7 Jul, 10:11, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> "...But nonprofit groups warn that the benefits of biofuel production
> - access to energy and new income - could be outweighed by rising food
> prices and more competition for the same land.
Dang. There is so much competition for land in Europe.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6270132.stm
Europe's top wine-producing countries could be forced to dig up almost
6%% of their vines under a scheme mooted by the European Commission.
Now think carefully, what could this land be used for after it has
been Dug up?
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Author: DougDoug Date: Jul 8, 2007 00:03
On 7 Jul, 23:17, NotMe googlemail.com> wrote:> On 7 Jul, 10:11, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
>>> "...But nonprofit groups warn that the benefits of biofuel production
>> - access to energy and new income - could be outweighed by rising food
>> prices and more competition for the same land.
>
> Dang. There is so much competition for land in Europe.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6270132.stm
>
> Europe's top wine-producing countries could be forced to dig up almost
> 6%% of their vines under a scheme mooted by the European Commission.
>
> Now think carefully, what could this land be used for after it has
> been Dug up?
What area of land are you talking about and why did you decide to
cherry pick wine, considering all the other crops being grown? Isn't
ethanol already being produced from some surplus wine?
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Author: RoadhogRoadhog Date: Jul 9, 2007 10:17
>"...But nonprofit groups warn that the benefits of biofuel production
>- access to energy and new income - could be outweighed by rising food
>prices and more competition for the same land.
>
>Even small increases in food prices could harm populations living on
>less than US$1 (75 euro cents) per day, International Food Policy
>Research Institute director Joachim von Braun said.
Good. The world is overpopulated, a bit of Malthusianism is long
overdue. It'll even reduce your beloved global warming Duhg.
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Author: NotMeNotMe Date: Jul 9, 2007 16:08
On 8 Jul, 08:03, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> On 7 Jul, 23:17, NotMe googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On 7 Jul, 10:11, Doug riseup.net> wrote:>
>>> "...But nonprofit groups warn that the benefits of biofuel production
>>> - access to energy and new income - could be outweighed by rising food
>>> prices and more competition for the same land.
>
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>> Europe's top wine-producing countries could be forced to dig up almost
>> 6%% of their vines under a scheme mooted by the European Commission.
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>> Now think carefully, what could this land be used for after it has
>> been Dug up?
>
> What area of land are you talking about and
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Author: TommyTommy Date: Jul 10, 2007 04:51
On the BBC this morning it was stated that the "cooking medium" used in
chippies are shooting up due to its increased use in vehicles
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Author: FodFod Date: Jul 10, 2007 07:08
On Jul 10, 12:51 pm, "Tommy" e-milll.co.uk> wrote:> On the BBC this morning it was stated that the "cooking medium" used in
> chippies are shooting up due to its increased use in vehicles
Food prices are going up across the board. Thats more due to bad
harvests and the current oil price high than biofuels or using lard as
fuel though.
Fod
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Author: NotMeNotMe Date: Jul 11, 2007 08:41
On 11 Jul, 15:51, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> On 10 Jul, 15:08, Fod googlemail.com> wrote:> On Jul 10, 12:51 pm, "Tommy" e-milll.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On the BBC this morning it was stated that the "cooking medium" used in
>>> chippies are shooting up due to its increased use in vehicles
>
>> Food prices are going up across the board. Thats more due to bad
>> harvests and the current oil price high than biofuels or using lard as
>> fuel though.
> Aggrofuels are an unnecessary contributary factor.
Food prices in Europe are kept artificially high by the CAP. If the EU
is serious about biofuels, there is plenty of land available for
growing extra crops.
Biofuels recycle CO2 into usable fuel using solar energy, I cannot
understand what you have got against them (unless it is envy).
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Jul 11, 2007 09:31
NotMe wrote:
> On 11 Jul, 15:51, Doug riseup.net> wrote:>> On 10 Jul, 15:08, Fod googlemail.com> wrote:> On Jul
>> 10, 12:51 pm, "Tommy" e-milll.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> On the BBC this morning it was stated that the "cooking medium"
>>>> used in chippies are shooting up due to its increased use in
>>>> vehicles
>>
>>> Food prices are going up across the board. Thats more due to bad
>>> harvests and the current oil price high than biofuels or using lard
>>> as fuel though.
>
>> Aggrofuels are an unnecessary contributary factor.
>
> Food prices in Europe are kept artificially high by the CAP. If the EU
> is serious about biofuels, there is plenty of land available for
> growing extra crops.
> Biofuels recycle CO2 into usable fuel using solar energy, I cannot
> understand what you have got against them (unless it is envy). ...
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