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Re: More evidence of global warming contributed to by your filthy car exhausts.         

Group: uk.transport · Group Profile
Author: BrianW
Date: Sep 12, 2008 02:35

On 12 Sep, 10:30, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
> On 11 Sep, 22:14, Derek miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Doug riseup.net>
>> wrote:
>
>>>But the point I keep on making is that even if there is still some
>>>disagreement as to predictions and mechanisms that is no good reason
>>>to ignore theprecautionaryprinciple
>
>> If " there is still some disagreement as to predictions and
>> mechanisms"
>
>> Then there is no goodprecautionaryprinciple to hang your hat on.
>> What if you got it wrong and made it worse?
>
>> You could use the same argument to justify eveyone existing on a diet
>> of lentils boiled in Witch-Hazel.
>
>> Oh, wait a minute ...
>
>>>and keep on taking carbon from
>>>the earth and releasing it into the atmosphere in vast quantities,
>
>> The earth is also "vast".
>
>>>with the possibility of killing many millions of people in the future,
>
>> You have no proof of that or even of any similar (lesser) outcome.
>
> "The precautionary principle is a moral and political principle which
> states that if an action or policy might cause severe or irreversible
> harm to the public or to the environment, in the absence of a
> scientific consensus that harm would not ensue, the burden of proof
> falls on those who would advocate taking the action."
>
> So, polluters like yourself have to prove that your actions are not
> harmful.

You could equally well apply the principle to people who say the
status quo should be changed. It gets us nowhere, Gollum.
>>>just so that the present populations can maintain their extravagant
>>>and wasteful lifestyles.
>
>> Move out of that preposterously wasteful house and quit your
>> preposterously wasteful lifestyle, create the wherewithall to support
>> the nauseous & miserable lifestyle you enjoy yourself  without relying
>> on others (whom you criticise) to support it, in a way that you propse
>> for everyone else and then we might listen to you.  
>
> Rubbish. If you have a car you are more harmful than me.

Liar! As you well know, CO2 emissions from running households is far
larger than that from cars. As someone who lives on his own, your
personal CO2 emissions from your house will be larger than most other
posters here.
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