> nik.morgan wrote:

>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:56:26 +0100, Abo wrote
>> (in article news.albasani.net>):
>>

>>> nik.morgan wrote:

>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:14:31 +0100, Abo wrote
>>>> (in article news.albasani.net>):
>>>>

>>>>> nik.morgan wrote:
>>>>>

>>>>>> Just one, even a minor one, of your unscheduled co2 events has more
>>>>>> effect
>>>>>> than humans have ever had, yet somehow the planet adjusts exactly as it
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> since time began. If these natural cycles result in the demise of our
>>>>>> species
>>>>>> then there is nothing we can do about it, the scale of the forces
>>>>>> involved
>>>>>> make our efforts puny by comparison, if you think global climate
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> man driven then you are delusional.

>>>>> Such as a volcanic eruption? The CO2 output due to eruptions is about
>>>>> 200 millions tons per year. Humans put out about 30 billion tons in
>>>>> comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>> Don't think so, how much by natural means? and by man? Man has only been
>>>> industrially active on a large scale for a few years, hardly enough to
>>>> scratch the surface of that which has gone before.

>>> I see what you're saying; if for arguements sake there has been an
>>> increase in CO2 due to man of 7.5%% per year since the beginning of the
>>> industrial revolution (which kind of puts us at the 30 billion tons we
>>> chuck out today) then it was only about 65 years ago we overtook the CO2
>>> output from volcanos. But in that 65 years or so we've put out the same
>>> amount of CO2 as nearly 2000 years of vulcanism. If you go forward with
>>> that same 7.5%% increase then in just ten years we've put out another
>>> 2000 years vulcanism equivalent. Yes; back of the fag packet maths, I know.
>>>
>>> Dunno what that 'proves'; maybe nothing? But IME we *do* put out a
>>> fuckload of CO2, and CO2 *is* a greenhouse gas. I agree with what has
>>> been said elsewherethough; whether it is enough to permanantly fuck up
>>> the climate is up for debate.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> And a sizeable perfectly natural eruption tomorrow will blow all the man
>> made
>> co2 arguments away.

>
> Have you a link, googling for figures is a pain in the arse and I've got
> to leave for work now :(
>
>