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Author: DougDoug Date: Sep 4, 2008 22:58
This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and
worse doesn't it.
" Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the sky
after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes can
land at Heathrow.
The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAA) has cut back the
wake separation between the A380 and other aircraft meaning Heathrow
will be able to handle four landings a day by the world’s largest
passenger plane.
What this means is that the distance between airplanes has been cut as
the vortex created by the enormous super jumbo has been deemed safe
enough to allow closer bunching..."
More:
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/topstories/3646528.HOUNSLOW__More_A380_s.../
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Sep 4, 2008 23:38
Doug riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
> This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and worse
> doesn't it.
>
> " Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the sky
> after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes can
> land at Heathrow.
I'd have thought you'd agree that was a good thing - or do you prefer
Boeing's approach of more flights by smaller planes to get the same
number of people shifted?
> The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAA) has cut back the
> wake separation between the A380 and other aircraft meaning Heathrow
> will be able to handle four landings a day by the world’s largest
> passenger plane.
Four per day! Wow...
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Author: DougDoug Date: Sep 4, 2008 23:45
On 5 Sep, 07:38, Adrian gmail.com> wrote:> Doug riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>>> This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and worse
>> doesn't it.
>
>> " Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the sky
>> after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes can
>> land at Heathrow.
>
> I'd have thought you'd agree that was a good thing - or do you prefer
> Boeing's approach of more flights by smaller planes to get the same
> number of people shifted?
>
No I take the view that ALL non-essential air travel is bad regardless
of mode. Also, demand tends to follow supply with hypermobility.
>
>> The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAA) has cut back the
>> wake separation between the A380 and other aircraft meaning Heathrow ...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Sep 4, 2008 23:52
Doug wrote:
> This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and
> worse doesn't it.
>
But Doug, look on the bright side. Some of their capacity will be for
freight, some of which will be bringing your veggie foodstuffs in from
foreign parts.
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Sep 4, 2008 23:56
Doug riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
>>> This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and
>>> worse doesn't it.
>>
>>> " Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the
>>> sky after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes
>>> can land at Heathrow.
>> I'd have thought you'd agree that was a good thing - or do you prefer
>> Boeing's approach of more flights by smaller planes to get the same
>> number of people shifted?
> No I take the view that ALL non-essential air travel is bad regardless
> of mode.
Where "non-essential" = "doesn't bring my dinner". And, yet again, you
seem to forget that airfreighting foodstuffs and other products you may
deem "essential" wouldn't be economically viable without commercial
passenger traffic.
> Also, demand tends to follow supply with hypermobility.
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Date: Sep 5, 2008 01:02
> " Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the sky
> after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes can
> land at Heathrow.
>
> The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAA) has cut back the
> wake separation between the A380 and other aircraft meaning Heathrow
> will be able to handle four landings a day by the world
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Date: Sep 5, 2008 03:15
> This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and
> worse doesn't it.
No Duhng. The A380 is a significant and positive technological advance
permitting the movement of more people with the expenditure of less
fuel. So it's not "worse and worse" it is "better and better".
> " Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the sky
> after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes can
> land at Heathrow.
And they can also get used to areduction in the number of 747 flights
which are more frequent and noisier than the A380, a quieter, more
modern aircraft.
Nor is this a 'a reduction in safety limits', it's simply a recognition
that the initial (guessed and hence extremely conservative) wake
separations were unnecessary.
> The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAA) has cut back the
> wake separation between the A380 and other aircraft meaning Heathrow
> will be able to handle four landings a day by the world's largest
> passenger plane.
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Author: Mike PMike P Date: Sep 5, 2008 03:19
"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:e7ea5641-dd1b-4d71-8082-1301d3e371bb@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 5 Sep, 07:38, Adrian gmail.com> wrote:> Doug riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>>> This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and worse
>> doesn't it.
>
>> " Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the sky
>> after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes can
>> land at Heathrow.
>
> I'd have thought you'd agree that was a good thing - or do you prefer
> Boeing's approach of more flights by smaller planes to get the same
> number of people shifted?
>
No I take the view that ALL non-essential air travel is bad regardless
of mode. Also, demand tends to...
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Author: Mike PMike P Date: Sep 5, 2008 03:20
> Doug riseup.net> wrote:
>>> This pandering to mass wander lust just keeps on getting worse and
>> worse doesn't it.
>
> No Duhng. The A380 is a significant and positive technological advance
> permitting the movement of more people with the expenditure of less
> fuel. So it's not "worse and worse" it is "better and better".
>
>> " Residents will have to get used to more super jumbos filling the sky
>> after a reduction in safety limits means more of the giant planes can
>> land at Heathrow.
>
> And they can also get used to areduction in the number of 747 flights
> which are more frequent and noisier than the A380, a quieter, more
> modern aircraft.
>
> Nor is this a 'a reduction in safety limits', it's simply a recognition ...
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Author: Walter BriscoeWalter Briscoe Date: Sep 5, 2008 07:48
In message <1imsk4i.umko3f11vc6foN%%%%steve%%@ malloc.co.uk> of Fri, 5 Sep
2008 11:15:01 in uk.transport, Steve Firth <%%steve%%@ malloc.co.uk> writes
[snip]
>> The International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAA) has cut back the
>> wake separation between the A380 and other aircraft meaning Heathrow
>> will be able to handle four landings a day by the world's largest
>> passenger plane.
>
>Gasp, a whole four a day.
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