On 18 Jul, 16:03, "Dr Zoidberg"
drzoidberg.co.uk>
wrote:>> On 17 Jul, 22:05, "Dr Zoidberg"
drzoidberg.co.uk>
>> wrote:>>> "Doug"
riseup.net> wrote in message>
>
>>>> Tough shit eh? Motoring is becoming so expensive these days.
>
>>>> "As if rising petrol prices weren't enough, motorists are being hit by
>>>> higher parking charges, with London coming up tops as the world's most
>>>> expensive city to park your car, according to a survey.
>
>>> Yep , supply and demand , plus the people who want to park right in the
>>> centre of london are either doing so on expenses or are stupidly rich
>>> anyway
>>> so it's pretty irrelevant for the large majority of people in the
>>> country.
>
>>>> Parking your car in the City of London costs on average 34 pounds a
>>>> day, or 583 pounds a month, while parking in the popular West End
>>>> entertainment district cost 568 pounds month,
>
>>> You do realise though , that those are *really* small areas of london and
>>> it's possible to park much more cheaply or free elsewhere.
>
>>> I tend to drive to london and then park on the outskirts and get a tube
>>> in
>>> as it costs a fraction of the cost of a train for three or four people.
>
>> Not if you cost your car use honestly, including those charges when
>> the car is standing idle and for repairs. Cherry picking individual
>> journeys here and there is not the same as calculating an average for
>> the year, which is typically 5000 quid per car.
>
> But given that I already have (and need) the car , and many of the costs are
> fixed irrespective of how many miles I drive then the important figure *is*
> the extra amount that it costs me to make a single journey compared to not
> making it.
>
Yes but if you didn't have the car then there would be no fixed costs
and that amount could go towards using PT.
>
> The car is still depreciating if I leave it at home and take the train , and
> it's also still got to be taxed and insured.
> The extra costs of making any journey are the fuel , a bit more depreciation
> and a small fraction of the cost of a service.
>
See above.
>
> By the way , I've worked out the total cost of owning my car and so far it
> works out at 27p a mile (for a brand new Octavia).
> I'm happy to post figures if you don't believe me.
> Of that 27p , about 11p is depreciation that would happen if I parked it on
> the drive and never used it and other fixed costs , so the extra cost of
> making a single journey is about 16p a mile.
>
> London is about 120 miles from my house , so that's near as makes no odds
> �38 to get there and back.
> Even if you take the entire cost of the car including absolutely everything
> , then the 240 mile round trip costs 64 quid.
> A return train ticket is �28 per person , so depending on which set of
> figures you want to use (And I will take the first ones) then it's cheaper
> to drive if there are two or three of you.
> When there's four in the car as there often are , it's a total no-brainer.
>
> In addition , the journey will take me about 2 hours plus 20 minutes on the
> tube each way.
> By train , it's about an hour longer each way so it's quicker , more
> convenient and more comfortable as well as being cheaper.
>
Except when you are held up by traffic jams. What is the rush anyway?
How can it be more convenient and comfortable when you have to
concentrate every second all the way instead of being able to relax on
a train?
