On 9 Sep, 08:59, "nightjar" .me.uk>
wrote:
>> On 8 Sep, 20:14, "nightjar" .me.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> "Doug"
riseup.net> wrote in message>
>
>>>> On 8 Sep, 08:37, "nightjar" .me.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> "Doug"
riseup.net> wrote in message>
>
>>>>>> On 8 Sep, 08:16, "Graculus"
hotmail.co.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>> "Doug"
riseup.net> wrote in message>
>
>>>>>>>> The list of harm caused by mass car use seems to be growing ever
>>>>>>>> longer. Will it ever stop?
>
>>>>>>>> "...But equally foolish is the covering so much land with
>>>>>>>> concrete
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> tarmac - which prevents water soaking into the ground and allows
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> run off. Houses used to have decent-sized gardens, with grass and
>>>>>>>> exposed soil to mop up large quantities of rainwater. Now even
>>>>>>>> expensive houses are packed close together and what open ground
>>>>>>>> remains is taken up with hard standing for a couple of BMWs plus
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> large patio for the barbecue..."
>
>>>>>>> Another unattributed quote, Doug? Why should we take this seriously
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> won't even tell us where it came from?
>
>>>>>> I didn't realise that you and your motoring chums would be at all
>>>>>> interested in following this up and you would be more likely to
>>>>>> spend
>>>>>> all of your time here devising new ways of dismissing it out of
>>>>>> hand.
>
>>>>>> Here goes then:
>
>
>>>>> Contrary to the experience of the author, I managed to get rid of
>>>>> flooding
>>>>> in my garden by laying hard surfacing. I used it to raise the ground
>>>>> level
>>>>> in that part of the garden by a few inches, which took it above the
>>>>> winter
>>>>> ground water level.
>
>>>> The point you seem to be missing is that while improving your own
>>>> situation you have made it worse for others by increasing run-off.
>
>>> The point you are definitely missing is that, in my case, the water was
>>> rising out of the ground, not falling out of the sky. As the water table
>>> was
>>> above ground level, there wouldn't have been anywhere for rainfall to run
>>> off to. Therefore, the situation is neither better nor worse, except that
>>> I
>>> now don't have to walk through a shallow pond to get to the garage.
>
>> The 'shallow pond' is on your property instead of being diverted onto
>> that of someone else.
>
> The water has not been diverted anywhere. Dig a pit down to the original
> soil level anytime from about November to February and it will fill with
> water. The only difference the work has made is that the ground is now
> several inches higher, so the water no longer gets above the ground.
>
>> Has it also occurred to you that water might be
>> rising out of your ground because someone else is diverting it to you?
>
> Has it occurred to you that you are talking through your hat? If anything,
> more, properly drained, hard surfacing would reduce the problem. I live on a
> well-protected flood plain and part of that protection is a pumping station
> that removes surface water run-off through a network of large drain pipes.
> The water rising out of my garden is the result of the water that did not
> run off soaking into the surrounding ground and raising the water table.
>
That is because there is not enough area of porous ground available to
absorb the water due to widespread non-porous surfacing, such as in
your garden, and to which perpetual roadbuilding contributes. Our old
drains are no longer big enough to contain the increased run-off due
to hard surfacing, that is why your garden is flooding.
