> On 16 Jul, 12:15, "Mike P"
privacy.net> wrote:>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 15 Jul, 19:46, "Mike P"
privacy.net> wrote:>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>> On 15 Jul, 10:23, Conor
hotmail.com> wrote:>>
>>>>>>> Hopes are pinned on recent advances in battery technology and
>>>>>>> batteries can be recycled anyway.
>>
>>>>>> Is the wrong answer.
>>
>>>>> Explain, if you can.
>>
>>>>>>> I am glad you agree that the
>>>>>>> manufacture of millions of automotive batteries causes massive
>>>>>>> pollution.
>>
>>>>>> However lead acid batteries can be recycled to a far greater extent
>>>>>> than the ones being proposed.
>>
>>>>> The point was pollution caused by manufacture. Do try to stay
>>>>> focussed.
>>
>>>>>>> If motorists can stop using their cars to gratify their
>>>>>>> high-speed, long-distance, sexually motivated wander lust and use
>>>>>>> them instead locally, electric cars might prove quite useful.
>>
>>>>>> So you're saying that these are actually of little value
>>>>>> whatsoever?
>>
>>>>> Quite the reverse gallivanting around at speed in cars is of little
>>>>> value
>>
>>>> For those that enjoy it, it is of immense value. I love it. I do it
>>>> in safe places or on trackdays where it's not going to cause anyone
>>>> but me harm.
>>
>>> What about your emissions then?
>>
>> Very little. The car we usually use, is a well maintained and properly
>> tuned
>> VW Golf GTi MK2. It's probably not used more than 15-20 litres of fuel.
>> As
>> Conor says, it's an inconsequential amount compared to the pollution the
>> far
>> east is putting out.
>>
> You have to learn to think per capita, where those in the far east
> pollute far less than you.
>>
>>>> I would have thought that at your age and supposed intelligence,
>>>> you'd have known by now that it is human nature to want to go
>>>> faster. Ever since man could speak and move, he has wanted to go
>>>> faster. The ancient Eqyptians raced horses and camels, the Romans
>>>> had their chariots. it's human nature and you can't change it just
>>>> like that. You may want to, but it won't happen.
>>
>>> Unbridled human nature is responsible for a great deal of harm but we
>>> in civilised societies try to keep it in check.
>>
>> Yes, speed limits and track days for example.
>>
> A better example is road deaths.
Stupid cunt. You stated "ways of keeping it in check", to which I agreed
track days and speed limits do keep us petrolheads in check. What the fuck
road deaths has to do with what I just said I have no idea.
>>>>>but perhaps using an electric car to get your food and other
>>
>>>>> necessities might be valuable, for those who have no other method of
>>>>> doing so.
>>
>>>> I'd actually get them to deliver it in a van, rather than go and get
>>>> it myself. Oh, I do that most of the time already..
>>
>>> Excellent. Deliveries are much better than individual journeys but it
>>> raises the question, why do you need a car?
>>
>> Because, unlike you, I live in the real world and have to drive to get to
>> work, a concept seemingly alien to you. Before you start, it's not
>> possible
>> to get there by PT unless I feel like getting up at 6am instead of
>> 8:30am.
>>
> What is wrong with getting up at 6am? I usually rise before that. What
> made you decide to make yourself car dependent in the first place?
I don't give a fuck what time you get up, and it's non of your business what
time I get up, or wish to get up. Why don't you go and live in North Korea
if you wish to live in such a place where you are told what you can and
can't do? Fact is, it's my personal choice. There's also the fact I wouldn't
get paid for nearly 5 hours travelling just to get to work 12 miles away.
>>>>>> And again, it seems you don't do any research otherwise you'd have
>>>>>> come across the Tesla..
>>
>>>> Aye, and a nice looking beast it is too. I wonder if they'll make
>>>> some sort of audio device as an option so it can *sound* like it's
>>>> got a big V8 in it?
>>
>>> It is a big mistake to try to make electric cars emulate sexy ICE
>>> cars.
>>
>> Oh do fuck off. One minute you're spouting shite about petrolheads not
>> wanting to be seen dead in an electric car, then you get one who
>> disagrees
>> and you say we shouldn't anyway. You're a total moron.
>>
> Idiot! Don't you understand? Petrolheads should stop thinking about
> their silly image and think about using cars which waste and pollute
> less.
Stupid cunt. I just said I'd use a fucking electric car, what part of that
don't you understand?
>>>The ideal electric car for local use need go no faster than
>>> 30mph max and be boxlike in appearance to maximise carrying capacity
>>
>> You don't understand much about aerodynamics and energy wastage through
>> poor
>> aero do you? So you want to make an even *more* inefficient electric car
>> than already exists. Fantastic idea. The speed limits on most of the
>> roads
>> around here is 50/60mph, so driving a 30mph electric car would hold up
>> the
>> petrol powered traffic, thus making *them* more inefficient, not to
>> mention
>> it'd be fucking dangerous. There'd be plenty of "man in small boxy
>> electric
>> car squashed to death by truck delivering lentils and Tofu" stories in
>> the
>> Heil I suspect..
>>
> It is you who doesn't understand. At low speeds aerodynamics is much
> less important and might even take second place to carrying capacity.
> Also there are campaigns afoot to reduce existing speed limits to
> safer levels.
Yes, but only campaigns from fuckwits like you. If you check with motoring
organisations, there is no call for the speed limit to be lowered. Some even
advocate raising it to the same as the most of Europe on motorways
>Even the most streamlined of cars still wastes energy at
> high speeds.
Yes, we all know that.SHOCK, Doug posts something correct!!!!
>> Please, before you post, think things through.
>>
> Pot kettle.
>>
>>>>> What about it, apart from the fact that most petrol head posers
>>>>> wouldn't be seen dead in an electric car?
>>
>>>> As long as it goes fast, I couldn't give a toss what it's powered by.
>>>> Something that revs like hell and has loads of torque sounds great
>>>> to me. Pity the batteries won't last long.
>>
>>> You see what I mean then.
>>
>> No, I see you're a daft old goat with no concept of life in the real
>> world.
>>
> The real world, lamebrain, is one of wanton waste of non-renewables
> and excessive pollution caused by people like yourself, with
> absolutely no regard for the welfare of others or the condition of the
> planet.
Yes, that motoring majority we all know about. Well, soon you will die and
you won't have to worry about it then will you?
>>> You are victim to your own anti-ecosocial
>>> cravings.
>>
>> As are you with your food flown in from abroad. Why not turn back to
>> eating
>> meat, and eat some good old British beef with homegrown veg?
>>
> No that would be a retrograde step using much more energy and
> resources.
>
Ah, so we get to the real point now do we? It's OK for *you* to do as you
please, not others. Just fuck off eh?
