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Author: DougDoug Date: Jul 23, 2008 22:54
So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
Manslaughter is rarely if ever used for killer motorists, instead they
get the lesser charge of careless or dangerous driving, presumably
because killing on our roads is so common it has led to widespread
complacence. This sentence merely confirms yet again the widespread
disparity in law between road killings and other sorts of killings.
What is needed is a new offence, 'Not being able to stop in time',
which is a result of always driving much too fast.
"The father of a seven-year-old girl who died when her quad bike and a
Range Rover crashed was charged with manslaughter by gross neglect
today for allowing her to ride on a public road.
Elizabeth Cooke was killed on Boxing Day near her family's home in
Blackmore, Essex. The accident occurred while her father, 46-year-old
Gary, was driving a four-wheel-drive vehicle in front of Elizabeth and
her brother Jack, 10, who were on separate quad bikes.
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Author: FodFod Date: Jul 23, 2008 23:09
On 24 Jul, 06:54, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
I'm confused Doug, a driver gets punished yet you don't seem happy?
Fod
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Author: FodFod Date: Jul 23, 2008 23:14
On 24 Jul, 06:54, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
> Manslaughter is rarely if ever used for killer motorists, instead they
> get the lesser charge of careless or dangerous driving, presumably
> because killing on our roads is so common it has led to widespread
> complacence. This sentence merely confirms yet again the widespread
> disparity in law between road killings and other sorts of killings.
>
> What is needed is a new offence, 'Not being able to stop in time',
> which is a result of always driving much too fast.
>
Could you explain how you think this offence would cover the scenario
when a child on a fast moving vehicle who's not legally allowed to be
on the road pulls directly in front of a car travelling within the
speed limit at the very last minute?
Ah wait, you don't really want to make the roads safer. I forgot that
when I read your posts I should translate it into
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Jul 23, 2008 23:26
Doug riseup.net> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
Good.
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Jul 24, 2008 00:03
Doug wrote:
> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
> Manslaughter is rarely if ever used for killer motorists, instead they
> get the lesser charge of careless or dangerous driving, presumably
> because killing on our roads is so common it has led to widespread
> complacence. This sentence merely confirms yet again the widespread
> disparity in law between road killings and other sorts of killings.
>
Still gloating over other people's tragedies Doug?
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Jul 24, 2008 00:13
Doug wrote:
> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
> Manslaughter is rarely if ever used for killer motorists, instead they
> get the lesser charge of careless or dangerous driving, presumably
> because killing on our roads is so common it has led to widespread
> complacence. This sentence merely confirms yet again the widespread
> disparity in law between road killings and other sorts of killings.
>
> What is needed is a new offence, 'Not being able to stop in time',
> which is a result of always driving much too fast.
>
> "The father of a seven-year-old girl who died when her quad bike and a
> Range Rover crashed was charged with manslaughter by gross neglect
> today for allowing her to ride on a public road.
>
> Elizabeth Cooke was killed on Boxing Day near her family's home in
> Blackmore, Essex. The accident occurred while her father, 46-year-old
> Gary, was driving a four-wheel-drive vehicle in front of Elizabeth and ...
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Author: DougDoug Date: Jul 24, 2008 01:04
On 24 Jul, 07:14, Fod googlemail.com> wrote:> On 24 Jul, 06:54, Doug riseup.net> wrote:
>>> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
>> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
>> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
>> Manslaughter is rarely if ever used for killer motorists, instead they
>> get the lesser charge of careless or dangerous driving, presumably
>> because killing on our roads is so common it has led to widespread
>> complacence. This sentence merely confirms yet again the widespread
>> disparity in law between road killings and other sorts of killings.
>
>> What is needed is a new offence, 'Not being able to stop in time',
>> which is a result of always driving much too fast.
>
> Could you explain how you think this offence would cover the scenario
> when a child on a fast moving vehicle who's not legally allowed to be
> on the road pulls directly in front of a car travelling within the
> speed limit at the very last minute?
> ...
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Author: DougDoug Date: Jul 24, 2008 01:07
On 24 Jul, 08:13, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:> Doug wrote:
>> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
>> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
>> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
>> Manslaughter is rarely if ever used for killer motorists, instead they
>> get the lesser charge of careless or dangerous driving, presumably
>> because killing on our roads is so common it has led to widespread
>> complacence. This sentence merely confirms yet again the widespread
>> disparity in law between road killings and other sorts of killings.
>
>> What is needed is a new offence, 'Not being able to stop in time',
>> which is a result of always driving much too fast.
>
>> "The father of a seven-year-old girl who died when her quad bike and a
>> Range Rover crashed was charged with manslaughter by gross neglect
>> today for allowing her to ride on a public road.
>
>> Elizabeth Cooke was killed on Boxing Day near her family's home in
>> Blackmore, Essex. The accident occurred while her father, 46-year-old ...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Jul 24, 2008 01:15
Doug wrote:
> On 24 Jul, 08:13, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:>> So the guilty get punished & the innocent go free, it's a strange old
>> world ain't it.
>>
> Somebody in charge of a dangerous machine in a public place, who
> allows it to go out of control and kill someone, can hardly be
> described as 'innocent'.
The only vehicle out of control was the one being driven by the child who
died.
When are you going to stop using other people's tragedies to bolster your
own obsession?
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Author: FodFod Date: Jul 24, 2008 01:33
On Jul 24, 9:07Â am, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> On 24 Jul, 08:13, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Doug wrote:
>>> So, instead of convicting the driver who did the actual killing, the
>>> father, who has already suffered the agony of his daughter's death due
>>> to his negligence, is now convicted of manslaughter no less.
>>> Manslaughter is rarely if ever used for killer motorists, instead they
>>> get the lesser charge of careless or dangerous driving, presumably
>>> because killing on our roads is so common it has led to widespread
>>> complacence. This sentence merely confirms yet again the widespread
>>> disparity in law between road killings and other sorts of killings.
>
>>> What is needed is a new offence, 'Not being able to stop in time',
>>> which is a result of always driving much too fast.
>
>>> "The father of a seven-year-old girl who died when her quad bike and a
>>> Range Rover crashed was charged with manslaughter by gross neglect
>>> today for allowing her to ride on a public road.
> ...
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