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Author: DougDoug Date: Sep 2, 2008 23:03
Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful car
use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting trees and
carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off the metal and
keep it off.
"Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation
costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) warned
yesterday..."
"...Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating
between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the
type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star
rating.
By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending
£440 would save £145 a year in fuel bills, paying back in three years,
while an investment of £325 in extra loft insulation would save £60
annually, paying back in five years..."
More:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/solar-panels-take-100-years...
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Author: GraculusGraculus Date: Sep 2, 2008 23:41
"Doug" riseup.net> wrote in message
news:ae6a806b-a68d-4cc0-a376-47f57a556ff9@73g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful car
use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting trees and
carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off the metal and
keep it off.
----
Why the hectoring tone? Did anyone ever claim otherwise?
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Sep 2, 2008 23:43
Doug wrote:
> Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful car
> use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting trees and
> carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off the metal and
> keep it off.
>
> "Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
> climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation
> costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) warned
> yesterday..."
>
> "...Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating
> between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the
> type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star
> rating.
>
> By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending
> £440 would save £145 a year in fuel bills, paying back in three years,
> while an investment of £325 in extra loft insulation would save £60
> annually, paying back in five years..." ...
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Author: DougDoug Date: Sep 3, 2008 00:21
On 3 Sep, 07:43, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:> Doug wrote:
>> Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful car
>> use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting trees and
>> carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off the metal and
>> keep it off.
>
>> "Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
>> climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation
>> costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) warned
>> yesterday..."
>
>> "...Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating
>> between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the
>> type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star
>> rating.
>
>> By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending
>> £440 would save £145 a year in fuel bills, paying back in three years,
>> while an investment of £325 in extra loft insulation would save £60 ...
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Sep 3, 2008 00:26
Doug wrote:
> On 3 Sep, 07:43, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:>> Doug wrote:
>>> Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful
>>> car use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting
>>> trees and carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off
>>> the metal and keep it off.
>>
>>> "Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
>>> climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their
>>> installation costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors
>>> (Rics) warned yesterday..."
>>
>>> "...Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating
>>> between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the
>>> type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star
>>> rating.
>>
>>> By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending
>>> ...
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Sep 3, 2008 00:27
Doug wrote:
> On 3 Sep, 07:43, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:>> Doug wrote:
>>> Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful car
>>> use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting trees and
>>> carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off the metal and
>>> keep it off.
>>> "Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
>>> climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation
>>> costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) warned
>>> yesterday..."
>>> "...Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating
>>> between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the
>>> type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star
>>> rating.
>>> By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending
>>> £440 would save £145 a year in fuel bills, paying back in three years,
>>> while an investment of £325 in extra loft insulation would save £60
>>> annually, paying back in five years..."
>>> More: ...
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Author: ConorConor Date: Sep 3, 2008 00:29
> Told you so!
Not really, we already knew. It's hardly rocket science.
> "Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
> climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation
> costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics...
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Author: ConorConor Date: Sep 3, 2008 00:30
> On 3 Sep, 07:43, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:>> Doug wrote:
>>> Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful car
>>> use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting trees and
>>> carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off the metal and
>>> keep it off.
>>
>>> "Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
>>> climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation
>>> costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) warned
>>> yesterday..."
>>
>>> "...Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating
>>> between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the
>>> type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star
>>> rating.
>>
>>> By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending ...
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Author: AdrianAdrian Date: Sep 3, 2008 00:30
Tony Dragon btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:
>> I would suggest using the internet to shop and work as much as
>> possible.
> How would I use the internet for work Doug?
I do. In fact, I'm just about to head over to the office in the car so
that I can work on the internet. See you later.
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Author: DougDoug Date: Sep 3, 2008 00:32
On 3 Sep, 08:27, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:> Doug wrote:
>> On 3 Sep, 07:43, Tony Dragon btinternet.com> wrote:>>> Doug wrote:
>>>> Told you so! If you think you can offset your wasteful and harmful car
>>>> use by sticking up solar panels, wind generators, planting trees and
>>>> carbon trading then think again. Just take your foot off the metal and
>>>> keep it off.
>>>> "Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating
>>>> climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation
>>>> costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) warned
>>>> yesterday..."
>>>> "...Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating
>>>> between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the
>>>> type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star
>>>> rating.
>>>> By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending
>>>> £440 would save £145 a year in fuel bills, paying back in three years,
>>>> while an investment of £325 in extra loft insulation would save £60
>>>> annually, paying back in five years..." ...
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