Hi

Can someone please clarify the following for me.

If a lorry is stopped for being overweight - something that has
happened a few times lately to us and we are now virtually sending
lorrys half full out! - Can you clarify the penalties and are there
any points on the drivers licence.

Also when considering defects, if a vehicle has a defect - low tyre
tread or cracked screen etc - again can the driver receive points if
this has been reported?

Thanks for any advice.

In article <1187882153.999835.157520@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, The
Retired Punk says...

Why? Is your company so incompetent you don't know how much the load
weighs and how much the vehicle weighs unloaded? Even on tipper work,
the loader will know roughly what a shovel load weighs and how many to
put on a vehicle. And if doubt, take it to a weighbridge to get it
checked. Also for tippers, you can get onboard weighing equipment.

"The Retired Punk" googlemail.com> wrote in
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I know the VOSA/ police can put, if they want, an instant prohibition on the
vehicle until its brought under weight - guess that means sending a second
wagon and something to off load the prhibited vehicle - or a form of
delayed/varied so that it can be driven to a certain point by a certain time
at a certain speed.
Suppose it all depend how incompetant the company are about working out
weights

Sorry didnt explain very well.. Actually the employer is very good
and due to the size of our vehicles and difference in the weight of
our product it is getting very very difficult to judge. A vehicle
recently went out marginally overweight, although all at work agreed
theres no way we could tell and we were all shocked.

The company would without a doubt pay any fine to the driver - they
are very fair - and all the drivers have a responsibility to report
defects, and again the company do act quick to resolve them.

I was just unsure if we were stopped for being overweight / or a
defect that hadnt been spotted if it would mean points and if so who
was liable for the points

On Aug 23, 6:28 pm, Conor gmail.com> wrote:

In article <1187894770.429739.256820@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, The
Retired Punk says...

Phew!

That's just an excuse. Plenty of other companies have no problem.

If the company is in doubt, a lorry can legally travel to the nearest
Public Weighbridge (either council or privately operated one) to the
loading point to check the vehicle weight without fear of prosection
for being overweight.

That's just sheer incompetency.

"The Retired Punk" googlemail.com> wrote in
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So, install weighing equipment - a single axle load cell would do, assuming
someone can add up the individual axle weights - and avoid the need to
guess.

Colin Bignell

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:28:16 +0100, Conor wrote
(in article <5j5uduF3sj5biU5@mid.individual.net>):

Funnily enough, I was thinking about this the other day - for no particular
reason.

I assume that in the main you have to take the word of the customer as to the
weight of his shipment ? I imagine it puts the driver & operator in an
awkward situation if (for example) the customer tells you each pallet weighs
1/2t and they actually weight 3/4t and put you overweight, or the loader
tells you that each bucket of gravel is 4t while it's actually 6t . Hopefully
the authorities would allow some leeway if you are overweight when your
loadsheet says you should be well under.

In article <0001HW.C2F4E5AA0091CB48B019F94F@plusnet.vsrv-
ams.supernews.net>, Simon Hobson says...

"The Retired Punk" googlemail.com> wrote in
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Maximum permissible vehicle mass - (unloaded mass + driver + fuel + load).

The vehicle's unloaded mass should be provided by whoever supplies the
vehicle or components. You should also have a fair idea as to the mass of the
fuel (~0.83Kg per L), is the driver sensitive about there mass?

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:21:13 +0100, Conor wrote
(in article <5j97fsF3pf1obU6@mid.individual.net>):

That must be awkward if you are over - what's the next step then ?