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Re: Cyclist killed teenage girl on pavement 'after refusing to swerve to avoid her'         

Group: uk.transport · Group Profile
Author: John Wright
Date: Jul 13, 2008 08:29

Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jul, 23:54, John Wright pegasus.f2s.com> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 10 Jul, 08:24, JNugent NPPTG.com> wrote:
>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>> On 9 Jul, 21:57, "DavidR" 4bidden.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> "David Hansen" spidacom.co.uk> wrote
>>>>>>> As one might expect with the Daily Wail, the headline bears little
>>>>>>> relationship to the contents of the story
>>>>>> In the Telegraph there was another story on the same page about a person
>>>>>> deliberately droving a LandRover at someone. The victim leapt of the way
>>>>>> but the driver was charged with assault. My thought was "why wasn't it
>>>>>> attempted murder?"
>>>>> Good point. Why aren't cars treated like any other lethal weapon?
>>>> Good point. Perhaps motor cars should be taxed and regulated like those
>>>> lethal weapons kitchen knives (even daggers), hammers and plastic bags.
>>>> Not to mention sleeping pills.
>>> Any of which would involve a manslaughter charge if they inadvertently
>>> caused a death but why not a car? If a car is deliberately used to
>>> kill then that is treated as murder, just like any other weapon, but
>>> not if it is an involuntary cause. Obviously killer drivers are
>>> treated preferentially.
>> You posted something in another thread showing how a driver of a van had
>> been charged with murder. So its no so impossible as you like to portray.
>>
> I don't say it is impossible. What is it about 'If a car is
> deliberately used to kill..." you do not understand?

I suspect you don't understand it. I understand it very well.
> Either there is something we are not being told about the van driver,
> i.e. it was a deliberate killing which usually involves a murder
> charge regardless of the weapon used, or the police are up to their
> usual tricks of using any old initial charge, which will be changed
> later when and if it comes to trial.

Do you think you have a right to know everything about the van driver?
What sources of information will give you that? Bear in mind that
anything from a newspaper will be biased to their point of view.

I think the police are generally a bit more trustworthy in this regard.

--
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin
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