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Author: DougDoug Date: May 22, 2008 23:02
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Author: DogpoopDogpoop Date: May 22, 2008 23:16
Doug typed:
> For far too long petrol and diesel has been far too cheap, allowing
> enormous wastage of a dwindling non-renewable, massive pollution and
> gross hypermobility, which has fostered perpetual roadbuilding and
> cheap jet-setting. With luck this insanity may now be at an end as
> fuel prices adjust to a realistic level.
Frankly, I don't care what price diesel or petrol is, I still need to buy
and use it as an inherent part of my businesses. All it will do is force my
prices up and/or profit margins down.
--
Dogpoop
http://www.glass-uk.org/
"You would probably do better not to bother with renewable
energy" Doug, UK.Transport 29/04/2008 08:53.
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Author: DougDoug Date: May 23, 2008 00:10
On 23 May, 07:16, "Dogpoop" hotpop.com> wrote:> Doug typed:
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>> For far too long petrol and diesel has been far too cheap, allowing
>> enormous wastage of a dwindling non-renewable, massive pollution and
>> gross hypermobility, which has fostered perpetual roadbuilding and
>> cheap jet-setting. With luck this insanity may now be at an end as
>> fuel prices adjust to a realistic level.
>
> Frankly, I don't care what price diesel or petrol is, I still need to buy
> and use it as an inherent part of my businesses. All it will do is force my
> prices up and/or profit margins down.
>
What if it forces profit margins down to an unsustainable level? Would
you be able to adapt? Also, would you reduce your non-work related
travel?
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Author: DogpoopDogpoop Date: May 23, 2008 00:20
Doug typed:
> On 23 May, 07:16, "Dogpoop" hotpop.com> wrote:>> Doug typed:
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>>> For far too long petrol and diesel has been far too cheap, allowing
>>> enormous wastage of a dwindling non-renewable, massive pollution and
>>> gross hypermobility, which has fostered perpetual roadbuilding and
>>> cheap jet-setting. With luck this insanity may now be at an end as
>>> fuel prices adjust to a realistic level.
>>
>> Frankly, I don't care what price diesel or petrol is, I still need
>> to buy and use it as an inherent part of my businesses. All it will
>> do is force my prices up and/or profit margins down.
>>
> What if it forces profit margins down to an unsustainable level?
Then we diversify again, or do something completely different. Until that
time, which is far off, we carry on.
> Would you be able to adapt?
Of course, that's what farmers do.
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Author: ConorConor Date: May 23, 2008 00:24
Makes no odds for me. I just put an additional entry on every invoice -
"Fuel surcharge".
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Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Author: ConorConor Date: May 23, 2008 00:26
> What if it forces profit margins down to an unsustainable level? Would
> you be able to adapt? Also, would you reduce your non-work related
> travel?
>
This is the thing, Doug. When it gets to the point that enough hauliers
and businesses have gone to the wall because of it and enough people
have had to stop working because they can't afford the travel, what do
you think is likely to happen?
Big massive recession. And what's one of the things that gets cut when
there's a recession? Social Security Benefits - at the very same time
prices are going through the roof.
So if I were you Doug, I'd be praying it doesn't get to that level.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
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Date: May 23, 2008 01:07
> Makes no odds for me. I just put an additional entry on every invoice -
> "Fuel surcharge".
I wish hauliers wouldn't do that. It is never much of the total and seems to
be more of a political statement than anything. However, it still usually
needs to be allocated to more than one accounting category, which is a
time-consuming nuisance. I would much prefer it to be incorporated into the
price. I don't put things like a stainless steel surcharge on my prices.
Colin Bignell
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Author: DogpoopDogpoop Date: May 23, 2008 01:33
>> Makes no odds for me. I just put an additional entry on every
>> invoice - "Fuel surcharge".
>
> I wish hauliers wouldn't do that. It is never much of the total and
> seems to be more of a political statement than anything. However, it
> still usually needs to be allocated to more than one accounting
> category, which is a time-consuming nuisance. I would much prefer it
> to be incorporated into the price. I don't put things like a...
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Author: ConorConor Date: May 23, 2008 01:43
In article giganews.com>, says...>> Makes no odds for me. I just put an additional entry on every invoice -
>> "Fuel surcharge".
>
> I wish hauliers wouldn't do that. It is never much of the total and seems to
> be more of a political statement than anything. However, it still usually
> needs to be allocated to more than one accounting category, which is a
> time-consuming nuisance. I would much prefer it to be incorporated into the
> price. I don't put things like a stainless steel surcharge on my prices.
>
But you haven't seen the biggest part of your running costs go up over ...
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Date: May 23, 2008 01:38
"nightjar .me.uk>" wrote in message
news:MuSdnXmn1YOy5qvVnZ2dnUVZ8t7inZ2d@giganews.com...>> Makes no odds for me. I just put an additional entry on every invoice -
>> "Fuel surcharge".
>
> I wish hauliers wouldn't do that. It is never much of the total and seems
> to be more of a political statement than anything. However, it still
> usually needs to be allocated to more than one accounting category, which
> is a time-consuming nuisance. I would much prefer it to be incorporated
> into the price. I don't put things like a stainless steel surcharge on my
> prices. ...
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