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Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:04
The population of the UK is 61 million
Children under 16 number 11 million
Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
There are 27 million cars.
Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
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Author: Mark GoodgeMark Goodge Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:32
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:04:46 -0700 (PDT), Doug put finger to keyboard
and typed:
>The population of the UK is 61 million
>Children under 16 number 11 million
>Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>
>There are 27 million cars.
>
>Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
You are assuming that 1 driver == 1 car. That's not true. There are a
plenty of people living together who have one car between them.
There's a non-trivial number of people who don't own a car, but hire
one as necessary.
And, of course, the majority of non-drivers are transported primarily
by drivers. How else do all those children get around?
Mark
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Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:40
On 22 Aug, 07:32, Mark Goodge listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
wrote:> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:04:46 -0700 (PDT), Doug put finger to keyboard
> and typed:
>
>>The population of the UK is 61 million
>>Children under 16 number 11 million
>>Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>
>>There are 27 million cars.
>
>>Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
>
> You are assuming that 1 driver == 1 car. That's not true. There are a
> plenty of people living together who have one car between them.
> There's a non-trivial number of people who don't own a car, but hire
> one as necessary.
>
The are also drivers who own more than one car.
> ...
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Author: GraculusGraculus Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:45
> On 22 Aug, 07:32, Mark Goodge listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
> wrote:>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:04:46 -0700 (PDT), Doug put finger to keyboard
>> and typed:
>>
>>>The population of the UK is 61 million
>>>Children under 16 number 11 million
>>>Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>>
>>>There are 27 million cars.
>>
>>>Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
>>
>> You are assuming that 1 driver == 1 car. That's not true. There are a
>> plenty of people living together who have one car between them.
>> There's a non-trivial number of people who don't own a car, but hire
>> one as necessary.
>> ...
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:50
Doug wrote:
> The population of the UK is 61 million
> Children under 16 number 11 million
> Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>
> There are 27 million cars.
>
> Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
>
> --
> World Carfree Network
> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
>
>
>
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Author: Knight Of The RoadKnight Of The Road Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:53
> Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
A majority then?
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Author: Tony DragonTony Dragon Date: Aug 21, 2008 23:55
Doug wrote:
> On 22 Aug, 07:32, Mark Goodge listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
> wrote:>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:04:46 -0700 (PDT), Doug put finger to keyboard
>> and typed:
>>
>>> The population of the UK is 61 million
>>> Children under 16 number 11 million
>>> Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>>> There are 27 million cars.
>>> Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
>> You are assuming that 1 driver == 1 car. That's not true. There are a
>> plenty of people living together who have one car between them.
>> There's a non-trivial number of people who don't own a car, but hire
>> one as necessary.
>>
> The are also drivers who own more than one car.
So you have disproved your own figures.
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Author: BrimstoneBrimstone Date: Aug 22, 2008 00:01
Doug wrote:
> The population of the UK is 61 million
> Children under 16 number 11 million
> Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>
> There are 27 million cars.
>
> Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
At what figures does "a small majority" become an average majority and a
large majority?
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Author: BrianWBrianW Date: Aug 22, 2008 01:10
On 22 Aug, 07:04, Doug riseup.net> wrote:> The population of the UK is 61 million
> Children under 16 number 11 million
> Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>
> There are 27 million cars.
>
> Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
Rather than relying on GollumStats(TM), let's look at the real
numbers. For 2006 (most recent available):
http://www.dft.gov.uk/162259/162469/221412/221531/223955/322743/NTS2006V3.pdf
75%% of households have access to a car (page 9)
81%% of men and 63%% of women hold a full licence (page 11)
81%% of people live in a household with access to a car (page 12)
Sorry, Gollum, motorists form a large majority, however you look at
it.
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Date: Aug 22, 2008 01:10
> The population of the UK is 61 million
> Children under 16 number 11 million
> Therefore the number of adults is 50 million not 40 million.
>
> There are 27 million cars.
>
> Therefore motorists are only 54%% of the population, a SMALL majority.
And with classic precision, Doug "Colander Foot"Bollen takes up his Uzi,
raises both his feet and proceeds to ventilate them like lace doilies.
Note the complete and utter absence of a reference for Duhng's claims
(again).
In Great Britain 82%% of the male population and 60%% of the female
population has a full driving licence. That's 31.6 million individuals.
< http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=7237&Pos=2&Col
Rank=1&Rank=272>
Last time I checked the voting age in the UK was 18, not 16. So Duhng's
assessment of the size of the voting population is incorrect.
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